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Replying to: jsmith1975 (May 27, 2008 3:59 am) A few nights ago, 1 of the news stations, did a segment on hybrids and "Plug In" electric cars. Seems that in the 90s Toyota built some "Plug In" Rav-4s. They were good for about 100 miles before re charging and were more than capable of highway speeds. Keep in mind, that was with the old battery technology. With the new "ION" batteries, they should have a greater range, be lighter weight, last longer and charge faster. Something like that would fill the 2nd car needs of a great many drivers for commuting. Something like that would work extremely well for our family as "Most" of our driving involves less than 25 miles round trip. They said that at the present cost of electricity, the cost per mile for "Fuel" would be the equivalent of about 200 MPG. Each full charge would cost in the neighborhood of $2.00 for 100 miles of driving. The new type batteries are supposed to be good for about 100K miles. Right now battery replacement for any of the electrics or hybrids is expensive ($4k-$5k), but should go down with time as most electronic things do. If a typical Yaris "averages" 33 miles per gallon, it will consume 3030 gallons of gas in 100K miles. that would = $12121 at $4 per gallon. An all electric car getting 100 miles per charge, would require 1000 charges and = $2000 for electricity at $2 per charge. Figuring in a high of $5k for a new battery pack, the electric car would cost $7000 for that 100K of driving vs $12121 for a piston engined car + $$$ for oil changes, transmission service and so forth. So in theory, the all electric car would be cheaper on "Fuel" by $5K. And cheaper on maintenance by many dollars. Also the electric car should be a lot cheaper to build. No engine with all it's associated moving and stationary parts, no fuel system, no transmission, No EPA devices and so on. Just a battery pack, a controller, and an electric motor. A Yaris size electric car would be extremely quick accelerating, quiet, trouble free, inexpensive and very handy for the short distance commuter, soccer mom , retired folks and such. Just a thought!  Kip |
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Replying to: podred (May 20, 2008 1:06 pm) I have to say you got me there. I was ranting a bit. I'm just so stressed when I get home from mashing the gas and the break for 30 minutes, |
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On a more positive note. Check out these numbers.... 20 amps continuous charge for 10 hours at 10 cents per kw = $2.20 The Chevy Volt is anticipated to travel up to 40 miles on a charge. Thats 5.5 cents per mile The average car at 20mpg and 4 bucks a gallon = 20 cents per mile The Yaris at 35mpg and 4 bucks a gallon = 11.5 cents per mile. My opinion is that there will be one of these in every two car family before long. Intersesting huh? can you imagine if you could power the car with solar? or a windmill on the roof or something? This seems entirely possible to me considering the advances being made in capturing and storing electricity from low volume power generators like this. Let me guess....now you guys love me! |
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I have just read the last 50 posts or so and have not seen one posting of what kind of mpg Yaris owners are getting. All I've seen is how to drive and electric car discussions. Does anybody on this thread drive a Yaris and what kind of real mpg do they get? Thanks.
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Replying to: m6user (Jun 01, 2008 7:49 pm) Why I do believe you are exaggerating a bit. Along with the discussions, which is what forums are all about, there are plenty of reported MPG Figures in the last 50 postings. Look again! The rest are discussions of how to achieve those figures. If you want pure mileage numbers you can find them at: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList Kip |
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Replying to: m6user (Jun 01, 2008 7:49 pm) I have the 4 door sedan with automatic transmission and I can get 36mpg city if I lay off the accelerator. Highway is a bit different. Yaris does not like speed. I've never gone slower than 65-75 and never done better than 33-35mpg. I'm betting that it is possible to do better but who has the time! The hyper milers are allegedly doing much better than me, Later - hope this helps. Yaris is a surprisingly pleasing vehicle for it's class and price btw. |
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Replying to: psulions (Jun 02, 2008 3:33 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jun 02, 2008 12:35 pm) It also would be safer to drive at 55 than the speeds we are currently doing. I wonder if that day will ever come, driving 55 on the highways. I for one would love to see it, but doubt it will happen, unless our fuel cost gets much much higher. My current 90 day average is its highest ever, 49.4 mpg. Love my Yaris HB.
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Replying to: fastrunner (Jun 03, 2008 2:44 am) It also would be safer to drive at 55 than the speeds we are currently doing" I totally agree! However simply lowering the speed limit won't do much good, unless strictly enforced, with fines and inconveniences that make speeding simply not desirable. Also ,to me, 60 MPH seems more reasonable. How about a $100 fine for 6-10 mph over the posted limit , and being required to sit inside a "Wait Here" area for an hour, to think about it. They could also watch the cars they passed, going by.  A $1000 fine for 11-20 Mph over the posted limit, car gets impounded on the spot for 10 days, and loss of license for 30 days. Anything 20+ the speed limit would have serious consequences. I'm thinking just the sight of the impound areas with cars sitting there would slow folks down a bit!  Kip |
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