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#351 of 472
Re: blah, blah, blah [podred] by psulions
May 19, 2008 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: podred (May 19, 2008 11:29 am)

I'm not sure that holds water.
 
The ratings are not calculated at high speeds, and drag is exponential.
 
My Honda Accord Sedan 4cyl gets the same mileage at 80mpg as my Yaris Sedan - and it weighs a third more. Yaris is blunt in front and steep in rear.
 
Toyota blew it in this area. Regardless, I'm sure they were not concerned with the 80mph driver in this class of car. Your Mercedes is engineered to outperform the Yaris if you apply the handicap considering the difference in class.
 
Yes, I know I could just slow down.
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Re: blah, blah, blah [podred] by kipk
May 20, 2008 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: podred (May 19, 2008 11:29 am)

>"Actually it's easy to exceed the fuel economy numbers printed on the new car price sticker. "
 
I agree with you 100%.
 
However, there are people that simply do not have the ability to do that.
 
Sad but true!
 
Kip
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Re: blah, blah, blah [kipk] by psulions
May 20, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: kipk (May 20, 2008 4:05 am)

You have to be ABLE to consider more than just mpg to put in its proper context.
 
The intrinsic cost are often overlooked by people who are focused only on the gas gauge.
 
Negative externalities are also ignored. There are other people on the road.
 
Again....sure you can do it. But does it really make sense?
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Re: blah, blah, blah [psulions] by podred
May 20, 2008 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: psulions (May 19, 2008 4:41 pm)

I'm sorry but you tell me what you are saving after you spend the three hundred bucks for the miserscan and the K&I filter not to mention the time wasted on all of this plus driving slow!
  
Timing red lights, coasting to a stop, installing springs in the back of your garage so you can capture the wasted energy of parking your car at night.

 
Very funny.... but you must be drifting off into another land. At no time did I say that I made any modifications to the car other than to install the electronic readout, which is no different that those cars that come from the factory with trip computers.
 
I happen to be having fun with all this, sorry to have lightened up your serious negative side. I will leave you alone to stew.....
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Re: blah, blah, blah [kipk] by podred
May 20, 2008 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: kipk (May 17, 2008 4:01 am)

>" What about the normal guy? The guy who needs to get to work on time, and does not want to spend an hour saving a gallon of gas?"
 
Simple really.
 
1) Leave for work, allowing yourself time to get there without having to ride peoples bumpers. Or weave wildly in and out of lanes.
 
2) Calculate the time spent driving at a reasonable speed (like the speed limit) and you will find that it's not an hour.....it's usually just a few extra minutes.
 
3) Learn to relax...and breathe.... you will live longer.
 
After all, your only driving to work.....
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Re: blah, blah, blah [psulions] by kipk
May 22, 2008 (3:15 am)
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Replying to: psulions (May 20, 2008 6:54 am)

>"Negative externalities are also ignored. There are other people on the road."
 
Of course there are other people on the road. If not, there would be no traffic and no need for traffic lights. As I wrote in post 346, which you choose to ignore:
 
"Therefore I try to get the best mileage possible from whatever I'm driving. Keeping traffic conditions in mind."
 
However I'm not going to let other drivers dictate my particular driving style. I'm not going to exceed the speed limit on local streets more than 5 mph. I'm not exceeding 65 on the free ways. On 2 lane highways, I will drive 5 mph over the posted speed limit. If I notice traffic stacking up behind me, I will pull over or speed up slightly. I don't really care that the guy behind me is not happy going 5 mph over the speed limit. I'm not going to tail gate the car ahead of me because the guy behind me wants to rush me along. I'm not going to run right up to a stop sign or red light before slamming on brakes, because that is what the guy behind me wants to do.
 
On a 30 mile commute, all road, I will get there within 3-5 minutes of when you do. In traffic, we will get there about the same time. I will burn less fuel and be more refreshed than if I was rushing the entire time.
 
What you consider a normal driver and what I consider a normal driver are different. I'm not a hypermiler by a long shot. But, every time I beat that EPA sticker by a good margin, I win. If you are happy getting poor mileage, great!
 
Kip
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Re: blah, blah, blah [kipk] by psulions
May 22, 2008 (4:41 am)
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Replying to: kipk (May 22, 2008 3:15 am)

and again.....
 
blah, blah, blah.......I choose to live normally. Stay over to the right if you don't like me in your mirrors.
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Re: blah, blah, blah [psulions] by backy
May 22, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: psulions (May 22, 2008 4:41 am)

What is "normal" may be changing. I've noticed in recent weeks a definite trend to traffic moving more slowly on freeways in/around the Twin Cities. Used to be I'd see many cars zipping along in the left lane at 10+ over the limit. I rarely see that now. I actually see many cars going a little below the posted limits, in the right lane (and occasionally not in the right lane ). I am pretty sure it has to do with gas prices getting close to $4.00 a gallon, and drivers realizing that speeding uses more gas than not speeding.
 
Like most small-engined cars, I expect the best way to get high mpg out of the Yaris is to drive it moderately, keeping the revs and speeds down as much as possible. And as with any car, the more your foot is not on the gas pedal (i.e. coasting or using a very light touch), the less gas you'll use. No rocket science involved there.
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Re: blah, blah, blah [psulions] by kipk
May 23, 2008 (3:55 am)
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Replying to: psulions (May 22, 2008 4:41 am)

>"and again.....
  
blah, blah, blah.......I choose to live normally. Stay over to the right if you don't like me in your mirrors."
blah, blah, blah...
 
If you think 5mph over the posted limit locally, and 65 on Express Ways is to slow, you can pass, pick another route, or leave at a different time.
 
Makes no difference to me if you are in my mirrors. Get too close and you WILL slow down or have to pick one of the above.. As I said before: I don't let other drivers dictate how I drive. That includes you!
 
Interesting that you drive an eccono box, but you don't have the ability to meet it's potential. Obviously for you, that is normal.
 
Kip
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Re: blah, blah, blah [kipk] by psulions
May 23, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: kipk (May 23, 2008 3:55 am)

Your going to need the money you are saving for the heart surgery. You hyper milers are high strung!
 
I'd rather meet my potential on a macroeconomic scale keeping in mind the value of time, not to mention my health. See your rear bumper later!

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