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#240 of 598 Re: coasting techniques for better mpg [lucynethel]
by jcash2ds
Mar 08, 2007 (11:09 am)
I read on & ON about this poor gas mileage and how it has GOT to be for a bunch of ridiculous reasons on "THIS" group. Yet every other REAL group of owners show a ton of us who just don't get good gas mileage!Seems to be tied to age AND driving expertize of the members of the "REAL" Yaris groups too.
Didin't you give up your Yaris? You are the one still looking in every nook and cranny for something against the gas mileage...
Suggest everyone try:
http://www.yarisworld.com/
Yes do look at YarisWorld.com - a great bunch of Yaris fans there. Here's the link:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38
Look for yourself and tell me how many- better yet, what percentage- of the people are getting the "horrible mileage" you claim. What is horrible? 29?? That beats most other cars' Real World MPG, any make, any model in the city.
And for the RECALLS:
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/yaris/71419
-yaris-recalls/
As for recalls, maybe you need to read the article before you try and scare someone.
Link: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/yaris/71419-yaris-recalls/
Comment : "" NEWS: Toyota recalls vehicles over faulty engine part
TOKYO (AP) -- July 18, 2006 — Toyota said Tuesday it is recalling about 420,000 vehicles globally, including some Echo and Prius models sold in the USA, over a faulty engine part.
The faulty part is the latest in a string of problems requiring recalls by Toyota, raising doubts over whether the automaker can maintain quality standards amid booming sales.
The recall affects about 150,000 cars sold overseas, mainly in the United States and Canada, Toyota spokeswoman ...said. These autos were manufactured in 2001. ""
Had you actually read the forum, you would've noticed it is talking about Echo and Prius models, manufactured in 2001. The Yaris is new for 2007, isn't it?
There are so many more if anyone discovers GOOGLE......
Point being, a LOT of folks routinely get 25-26 MPG City and 30-32 MPG Highway. A LOT of folks are just "dreaming".......
What do you consider "a LOT" ? 10, 15 people with mileage under 30 mpg ? considering the tens/hundreds of THOUSANDS of Yarii sold, in reality, your "LOT of folks" turns out to be a minor, and unfortunately unlucky, percentage.
Fuel Economy . Gov
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=mpgData&vehicleID=22749&browser=tru- e&details=on
4 out of 24 vehicles from different states registered under 30 mpg.
On the other side of the spectrum, 6 out of those same 24 cars registered 39+ mpg. O the injustice!
#241 of 598 Re: coasting techniques for better mpg [jcash2ds]
by lucynethel
Mar 08, 2007 (4:11 pm)
Liar, liar pants on fire!
#242 of 598 Re: coasting... [jkandell]
by nippononly
Mar 08, 2007 (11:18 pm)
Yes, that makes good sense, but you should be careful not to lug the engine, which can damage it and/or the transmission over time.
And in the larger picture, you have to ask which will cost you more over time, the 0.05 ounce of gas that throttle blip costs you each time, or the extra bite out of your gear synchros each time you put it in gear.
#244 of 598 Re: coasting techniques for better mpg [jkandell]
by nippononly
Mar 08, 2007 (11:29 pm)
No, the throttle plate has an idle position that allows some air/fuel mixture to get through at all times - this is where it sits when you are engine braking. That air and fuel has to be burned or the engine would flood as you were driving along. Not to mention, you would have the most drastic engine braking ever! You would never need your brakes at all with that much engine braking.
Turning your ignition off while the car is running turns off the fuel injection system. Imagine doing that, and that is how much engine braking you would have if normal engine braking worked as you described. Of course, that would be super-jerky and inconvenient - in fact, that is why Toyota came up with HSD, to do exactly what you describe for real! In Toyota hybrids, the gas engine ignition and fuel injection shuts down as soon as you step off the gas and the engine itself quits - the electric motor steps in to make the transition smooth (eliminating the "super-jerkiness") and collect electricity from the car's momentum at the same time.
#246 of 598 Re: coasting techniques for better mpg [spaminajam]
by jcash2ds
Mar 09, 2007 (9:12 am)
Try simply reading the TRUTH at:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorCompareSideBySide.jsp?column=1&id=22749- -
......... Yes, I have seen the new EPA MPG estimates. Did you read the fine print "Use the new EPA MPG estimates to compare to 2008 and later model year vehicles."
This will be the new method of estimating mileage in future vehicles. The numbers they have posted for the Yaris are simple calcuted estimates for 2007 and older vehicles. Keep in mind the new system recalculates EVERY car's mileage, not solely the Yaris. Therefore, you will see a drop in Yaris mileage estimate, as well as any other cars, including your Hyundai.
Furthermore, while this is an "estimate," no guessing/approximating speaks louder than the actual numbers posted by drivers themselves. AGain, look at the average : 34.5 based on 24 vehicles.
Aren't you the OP that ran out of gas because you failed to notice your gas was blinking? ...seems to speak volumes about your attention to detail...
and maybe:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4222
What is the point of this link? Yes, this person is getting under 30 mpg. I guess the sky is falling and we need to recall the Yaris....what a horrible car. Can you believe someONE actually got less mpg than what is stated on the label ???!!!
o for comparison...I'm getting 35 mpg in the city. Guess they need to recall this one too, huh? ...better start shopping for that Accent..
#247 of 598 Re: coasting techniques for better mpg [jcash2ds]
by spaminajam
Mar 09, 2007 (11:25 am)
Glad you agree!
#248 of 598 First tank mpg
by kenray1
Apr 01, 2007 (11:25 pm)
07 Yaris Liftback manual transmission.
Just finished the tank the dealer put in, and did my first fill-up. 35.37 mpg!!! Sure beats the 12 mpg I was getting in my Dodge Ram p/u. I'm saving more than enough on gas to pay the Yaris' car note.
I have a 70 mile R/T work commute, mostly interstate around 75 - 80 mph with the a/c on low. That's probably 80% of my miles. The rest is really heavy stop & go city traffic. I haven't altered any of my driving habits to try to increase my mpg, having too much fun zipping around.
When I filled up, I did put in a 10% ethanol blend. I had never heard about that reducing mpg. I'll watch for that, and let you guys know.
#249 of 598 Re: First tank mpg [kenray1]
by lhanson
Apr 02, 2007 (9:35 am)
Did the tank of gas from the dealer have ethanol in it? My experience with ethanol is that it will reduce your mpg by about 10% over non-ethanol gas.