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Replying to: jollyreaper (Feb 28, 2007 11:31 am) Could I have been causing damage driving in third gear like this?" See pages 125-127 of your manual. It is explained there and will answer your question. Don't feel too bad; I did the same thing. But, fortunately it was with the Scion loaner we were provided before our Yaris arrived. My wife was the one who brought it to my attention when she noticed me leaving the shifter in 3rd gear. Although I initially protested she said, "I read it in the manual." Upon actually looking at the labeling of the shifter and "thinking" I had to agree with her.  What are ya gonna do? It isn't a design or documentation deficiency. It's "us." If you're used to driving a car with an "in-line" shifter pattern it's an easy mistake to make. Maybe they could improve the manual with some bold, colored text to draw this to the readers attention, but a lot of people would probably still overlook it. Who reads the manuals anyway? |
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 01, 2006 6:23 pm) Do you really need to rev-match on contemporary cars like the Yaris? (Is this what they used to call "double clutching"?) I thought automobile manual transmissions ensured the gears were always in synch before meshing, in comparison to, say, my vespa scooter which would grind if you don't match the rpm's.
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Replying to: jkandell (Mar 02, 2007 9:23 am) And no, that's not double-clutching.
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Replying to: jkandell (Mar 02, 2007 8:45 am) Any time your engine is running, it is using gas. It can't run without it. So coasting in gear (with a manual) using the engine to brake uses roughly the same amount of fuel as just allowing it to idle. But engine braking will increase the life of your brake pads and helps the piston rings seat as well. 
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 02, 2007 12:48 pm) One way to match the revs from neutral to a gear is to blip the throttle a bit before shifting. I don't like that because it's wasted gas--which is what I'm in neutral trying to avoid. So what I've been doing most of the time is shifting into a slightly higher gear than is recommended in my manual. A higher gear means lower rpm, which results in a closer rev match to neutral; and since I'm already coasting I don't really need as much torque. Make sense?
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 02, 2007 12:51 pm) If you're idling the engine has to use fuel to keep things moving just enough. But if you're engine braking, doesn't the ecu on cars like the yaris shut off the fuel injectors? The moving pistons from momentum keeps it "running", no?
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Replying to: jkandell (Mar 07, 2007 7:12 pm) http://www.yarisworld.com/ And for the RECALLS: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/yaris/71419 -yaris-recalls/ http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/f6.html http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/f26 There are so many more if anyone discovers GOOGLE...... Point being, a LOT of folks routinely get 25-26 MPG City and 30-32 MPG Highway. A LOT of folks are just "dreaming".......
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Replying to: lucynethel (Mar 08, 2007 6:52 am) Didin't you give up your Yaris? You are the one still looking in every nook and cranny for something against the gas mileage... Suggest everyone try: http://www.yarisworld.com/ Yes do look at YarisWorld.com - a great bunch of Yaris fans there. Here's the link: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38 Look for yourself and tell me how many- better yet, what percentage- of the people are getting the "horrible mileage" you claim. What is horrible? 29?? That beats most other cars' Real World MPG, any make, any model in the city. And for the RECALLS: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/yaris/71419 -yaris-recalls/ As for recalls, maybe you need to read the article before you try and scare someone. Link: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/yaris/71419-yaris-recalls/ Comment : "" NEWS: Toyota recalls vehicles over faulty engine part TOKYO (AP) -- July 18, 2006 — Toyota said Tuesday it is recalling about 420,000 vehicles globally, including some Echo and Prius models sold in the USA, over a faulty engine part. The faulty part is the latest in a string of problems requiring recalls by Toyota, raising doubts over whether the automaker can maintain quality standards amid booming sales. The recall affects about 150,000 cars sold overseas, mainly in the United States and Canada, Toyota spokeswoman ...said. These autos were manufactured in 2001. "" Had you actually read the forum, you would've noticed it is talking about Echo and Prius models, manufactured in 2001. The Yaris is new for 2007, isn't it? There are so many more if anyone discovers GOOGLE...... Point being, a LOT of folks routinely get 25-26 MPG City and 30-32 MPG Highway. A LOT of folks are just "dreaming"....... What do you consider "a LOT" ? 10, 15 people with mileage under 30 mpg ? considering the tens/hundreds of THOUSANDS of Yarii sold, in reality, your "LOT of folks" turns out to be a minor, and unfortunately unlucky, percentage. Fuel Economy . Gov http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=mpgData&vehicleID=22749&browser=tru- e&details=on 4 out of 24 vehicles from different states registered under 30 mpg.  On the other side of the spectrum, 6 out of those same 24 cars registered 39+ mpg. O the injustice! 
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Replying to: jcash2ds (Mar 08, 2007 10:09 am) 
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Replying to: jkandell (Mar 07, 2007 4:51 pm) And in the larger picture, you have to ask which will cost you more over time, the 0.05 ounce of gas that throttle blip costs you each time, or the extra bite out of your gear synchros each time you put it in gear.
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