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Re: Yaris in Winter driving: good or bad? [keepitsimple] by chicagogiton
May 03, 2007 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: keepitsimple (Apr 29, 2007 2:08 pm)

Speaking as a fellow Chicago area resident, you don't have much to worry about.
First, the Yaris has a new body and some new suspension parts but the engine, transmission are carryovers from the Yaris that has been on the market for years in Japan and Europe.
 
Light cars handling in snow; Its more the tires than the weight of the car. The stock tires are all season tires, hence not much grip on ice and snow. The expensive option is to get snow tires, but I have had a great experience using "traction cables". Under $40 for a pair, they go on the front tires, and will keep you from getting stuck. I was seriously stuck in a parking spot, wheels spinning, put the traction cables on, and voila! I pulled right out. Once I got on a cleared road I pulled over and took them off. Just google "traction cables" to find places to buy them online.
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Disappointed by sweetgrl
May 09, 2007 (6:11 pm)
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I have had my Yaris sedan since August and overall I am less than impressed. There are lots a rattles that come from all over the car that apparantly are "normal". The gas mileage has been good, average 38mpg w/ mixed city and highway, but that's about the only plus of the car. Wish I would have bought a Versa You lose a bit in gas mileage but you get so much more in terms of features. Oh well...
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Re: Disappointed [sweetgrl] by bamacar
May 09, 2007 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: sweetgrl (May 09, 2007 6:11 pm)

6 to 10 mpg is more than a "bit" to me. If you get the Versa, you might as well get an Accord, Sentra, or Altima as those get about the same real world mileage as the Versa. For just a "bit" worse mpg than the Versa, you can get a midsize SUV.
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Re: Disappointed [bamacar] by backy
May 10, 2007 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: bamacar (May 09, 2007 6:41 pm)

A Sentra would cost more but not have much more interior space. An Accord, Altima, or midsized SUV would cost a lot more than a Versa. If you are going to get an Accord, might as well get a Prius and get better than 38 mpg.
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Re: Disappointed [backy] by bamacar
May 10, 2007 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 10, 2007 6:31 am)

You can get an Accord LX for 17-18k. I see people getting Versas for 15-17k. The Accord is much nicer, more powerful, better resale value, and similar fuel economy. A Prius will run you at least 20k by comparison though it would be a valid choice also for maximum fuel economy.
 
My point on the mid sized SUV is that Yaris owners are after an inexpensive car with high mileage. To say that a 6-10 mpg difference between the Yaris and the Versa is just a bit, then a bit worse than a Versa is a mid sized SUV, and a bit worse than a mid sized SUV is a Suburban. I would call 6-10 mpg a significant hunk not a bit.
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Re: Disappointed [bamacar] by backy
May 10, 2007 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: bamacar (May 10, 2007 9:21 am)

Can you please let me know where I can get an Accord LX for $17k that has alloys, Bluetooth, IntelligentKey, automatic (or CVT), sunroof, steering wheel audio controls etc.? That is what Versas have in the $15-17k range. A Versa equipped like a base Accord LX would run more like $13k.
 
Someone interested in a Yaris will not be shopping for an Accord. The Versa has its strengths and weaknesses compared to the Yaris. I don't see how comparisons to mid-sized SUVs are relevant to this discussion.
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Re: Disappointed [backy] by bamacar
May 10, 2007 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 10, 2007 9:45 am)

I think you almost got it. Someone shopping for the fuel economy of a Yaris should not be looking at a Versa. The valley is wide if fuel economy is the main factor.
 
The two I personally compared were the Versa SL with ABS versus Accord LX. Both have manual transmissions. The Accord is 17500 (1100 under invoice) in my area and the Versa SL is 15100 (just above invoice).
 
The Versa does not have Bluetooth, IntelligentKey, sunroof, steering wheel audio controls for that price. It does have aluminum wheels that the Accord LX does not have.
 
The Accord for 17500 does have 44 additional horsepower, better resale value, independent rear suspension, telescoping wheel, power trunk release, 5 star versus 4 star safety, and similar real world gas mileage.
 
In my opinion the Versa is a compact that markets itself against subcompacts that gets the fuel economy of a midsize.
 
Back to the Yaris.
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Re: Disappointed [bamacar] by backy
May 10, 2007 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: bamacar (May 10, 2007 10:41 am)

According to CR's tests, there's a 5 mpg gap between the Versa and Yaris for overall fuel economy. Not a huge gap IMO, given the much roomier interior and comfort of the Versa. If someone is looking for the highest possible fuel economy in a small, inexpensive car, then the Yaris is an excellent choice.
 
P.S. A better comparo to the Versa SL is the Accord SE.
P.P.S. The Versa has better overall IIHS crash test results than the Accord... and the Yaris for that matter.
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Re: Disappointed [backy] by bricknord
May 10, 2007 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 10, 2007 12:13 pm)

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If I were the betting type, I'd wager than something on the order of 1% of people considering an Accord or a Versa cross-shop the other.
 
I'd be ready to buy a Yaris immediately if I could get a hatch with ABS around here...
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Re: Disappointed [bricknord] by bamacar
May 10, 2007 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: bricknord (May 10, 2007 12:37 pm)

I fall into the 1% then. I bought an Accord and switched to the Yaris this time (but considered the Accord/Civic/Fit/Corolla/Versa/Prius/Elantra).

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