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#12 of 21 Re: '07 Yaris liftback test drive [alexco]
Apr 16, 2006 (9:14 am)
The automatic is hardly a "gas-guzzler." The manual is EPA rated 34/40, the automatic 34/39. Not a big difference.
#13 of 21 Re: '07 Yaris liftback test drive [alexco]
Apr 16, 2006 (10:57 pm)
You were lucky. 3-doors are SO hard to find! How was yours equipped? Convenience package, power package, or nada except floor mats?
I LOVE the look of the hatch, the sedan not so much. I could live with the 1-piece back seat that doesn't go all the way down to get a car with just the convenience package and purchase for about $12K.
In an interesting turn of events, my local dealer just got a base sedan with a stick and no options at all, which brings the sticker to $12,5. It looks a bit weird with the smaller rims - same problem my Echo has, although the Yaris doesn't look as weird!
#14 of 21 My own Yaris drive experience
Jul 03, 2006 (2:00 pm)
I finally drove a base sedan, auto, air.
At in town-speeds, the car is downright zippy, nimble, and corners well. Acceleration is fine - even with the auto.
The AC was pretty decent, too. Cold. Had to blast the crap out of the AC to get cold, but at least it GOT cold: there was none of this tepid "cooler than painful death by roasting" crap common to economy cars.
(1) I HATE the stupid "centerpod" groovy-funky-teenager dashboard. The speedometer is not clearly readable, nor is it conveniently in the sightline while driving. Add the location and it was exactly what the Edmunds expert called it: a gimmicky annoyance.
(2) The interior plastics are way-cheap and way-tacky. I'm speaking on the scale of "1987 Hyundai Excel" here. Plus, the door panels? Hard plastic. CRAPPY hard plastic.
(3) As for the whole debate above, "The Yaris does not have a temperature gauge," let me add that the Yaris does not have ANY gauges outside the weird centerpod speedo. The tach is only available on SOME models. As for any other data to give a clue about "how are my engine and transmission functioning?" Forget it: we have returned to the 1950s idiot lights so popular in cars of that (thankfully) gone Era.
In sum, I hate this car. It had SO much potential and really nice sheet metal . . . but from my experience? It will be well-made, reliable, well-bodied crap.
Which means that, for me, the Corolla is the option. Unlike the Yaris, the Corolla avoids key flaws (and has key features) noted above. And, at only a couple of grand more, that makes it the better buy from my perspective.
#15 of 21 Re: My own Yaris drive experience [sonatabean]
Jul 03, 2006 (4:10 pm)
Give it time, every time you go to refuel it at 37 MPG in city driving, (what I am getting with mine)and it will grow on you more and more. Of course, you can spend twice as much on a Prius and get another 7 mpg.
#16 of 21 Re: My own Yaris drive experience [lhanson]
Jul 03, 2006 (6:57 pm)
Actually, the rumor mill says Hybrid Synergy Drive will be available on the revised Corolla: I'll be holding out for that.
OR - the next option would be a Civic Hybrid.
Hit the same numbers, but without the irritating factors: I love small, sporty, zippy, high-MPG cars.
My litmus test, though, is also "do I actually *LIKE* the car?"
I like the Corolla. The Civic is okay.
I simply did not like the Yaris - but I made that clear already.
#17 of 21 Re: My own Yaris drive experience [sonatabean]
Jul 04, 2006 (3:52 am)
this is the direction i went as well, especially based on real world mileage reports of corolla owners, especially 5-speed owners. ive not been disappointed. my last 4 tank fulls have been:
39.1 mpg (60% hwy/40% city)
39.8 mpg (same mix)
41.9 mpg (80/20 mix)
43.1 mpg (90% hwy at 65-70 mph)
i almost never go below 38 mpg, and only with a majority of city driving. the extra cost of a hybrid will never be recovered from extra mileage, as, for example, prius real world highway mileage has been much lower than epa estimates. hybrids do their best work in city driving, but many of us put the bulk of miles on cars in non city conditions.
while the car is not perfect (ive found a seating position that suits me, but next gen should have a scoping steering wheel) it does what it is supposed to. its not sporty or fast, but neither is fit or yaris or versa. the killer for the yaris to me was the rear seat in the hatch is not split 60/40. so, when i have 2 passenger and want to carry a longer object ( which has already happened a few times) i can do it in the corolla but not in the yaris. a hatchback should be more, not less versatile. i know you can get the split rear seat, but its just not something one should pay extra for.
the other deal killer was that the yarii that were on the lot when i bought the corolla werent going to save me much, if any money.
i think as the release of the 08 corolla approaches (likely spring/summer 07) people will be scrambling to get the last batch of 07 corollas(great mileage, quite often for less than 15k) since the 08 will certainly cost somewhat more.
you can hold out for a hybrid corolla, but it will most certainly cost, in base form, 6-8k more than the 15k that will buy you the current corolla. given the outstanding mileage of the non hybrid version, that car better pull 50+ mpg real world highway mileage.
#18 of 21 Re: My own Yaris drive experience [kato1]
Jul 04, 2006 (4:59 am)
To each his own I say. I average 38 mpg in my Yaris liftback, and I have a 60/40 split back seat and power locks and windows for the mere price of $13,800. It boils down to one thing.... you have to buy what makes you happy. The Yaris makes me happy, the Corolla makes you happy I like driving something with a distinct body style. There are some that come close, until you look at the front ends. Anyway.... I'll defend my little Yaris forever. I know I know, I am a women and the "cute" factor wins out every time
#19 of 21 Re: My own Yaris drive experience [kato1]
Jul 04, 2006 (5:46 am)
What year is your Corolla MT and how much did you pay for it? Last time I went to a Toyota dealer, they had about 60 2006 Corollas to choose from, all AT's. Said they don't carry the MT's, because they can't sell them. Of course the salesman, a friend of mine, wouldn't even try to help me find the only Yaris they had on the lot. I had to go to another dealer in town and bought the only Hatchback Yaris on their lot (a MT)at full MSRP.
#20 of 21 Re: My own Yaris drive experience [lhanson]
Jul 05, 2006 (6:40 am)
my corolla is a 2006 ce model. i paid $14100 plus tax. it had the cruise/power door lock package. i must admit getting a manual transmission was a hastle. the dealer had none, nor any arriving any time soon. they had to deal with an out of town dealer to get a manual in the color i wanted, and they acted like i was asking them to sacrifice their first born child. i dont believe any dealer who says they dont carry manuals cause they cant sell them. toyota just doesnt make very many, period.
actually, i quite like the outside looks of the yaris hb. i would have been willing to buy a yaris hatch model stripped for $10,950 plus dest charges. however, i soon realized they wouldnt be making any true base models any time soon.
#21 of 21 Re: My own Yaris drive experience [kato1]
Jul 05, 2006 (1:04 pm)
That's not too bad a price; I paid 12,498 for my Yaris MT with power nothing (which I don't really care about). The only extras that came with it were the All-Weather Guard Package, the Convenience Package, Cargo Net, Floor Mats, and First Aid Kit. The one thing I didn't like about the Corolla was that it didn't have the MP3/WMA capability that the Yaris has. I would have liked to have had the cruise control, but I use the MP3 all time while I would hardly ever use the Cruise Control if I had it.