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Mercedes Benz GL-Class Lease Questions

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#47 of 111
Re: Fees? [heffneil] by heffneil
Feb 21, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: heffneil (Feb 21, 2008 7:34 pm)

He said the acquisition fee can't be changed but he would take another $300 off the price of the car. The doc fee was outrageous. I never heard of such a thing.
 
The deal is:
$1898.36 up front
and $1037 a month for 33 months with 15k miles.
 
I don't know if there is a fee at turn in. What is the practice here?
 
MSRP of the vehicle is $76,110
Selling price $70,840
 
Also the payment above includes the tax 6%.
 
Any thoughts on this "deal" ?
 
Thanks,
 
Neil
#48 of 111
Re: Fees? [heffneil] by ocautoseeker
Feb 22, 2008 (1:53 am)
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Replying to: heffneil (Feb 21, 2008 7:40 pm)

Okay,
 
I ran the numbers and they are spot on assuming the cap cost $70,840 + $1095 bank fee + 6% sales tax = $1037/mo. If they charge you the proper bank fee of $795, payments would be $1026/mo. If you pay the bank fee as part of your drives, your payments would be $1000/mo.
 
The cap cost looks good as it's right around invoice. Your mf is MBC's current buy rate, and the residual for 15k-mi is 60%.
 
Dealer is FOS if he's telling you that you can't pay the bank fee upfront. Btw... it's no secret what the bank fee is, it's clearly written on MBUSA.com. Take that to the dealer and show it to him
 
The turn in fee is $595.
 
Bottom line: Deal looks pretty good, I would just be aggressive on lowering that doc fee and getting the proper bank fee. There is nothing wrong with the dealer making a small profit, but to "pack" your bank fee and charge you an exorbitant doc fee is ridiculous!
 
My advice: Have them keep the cap cost the same (after they lowered it), charge you only $795 for the bank fee, and have them cut the doc fee at least in half. That will give them a few hundred dollars profit.
 
Dealers should not expect to hold gross on models that aren't moving, especially on the GL and thus why they offer lease specials.
 
Let me know how you make out.
#49 of 111
Re: Fees? [ocautoseeker] by heffneil
Feb 22, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Feb 22, 2008 1:53 am)

Is the turn in fee non-negotiable? I emailed the dealer who I drove the car with and said I didn't feel like going through the back and forthness. Honestly I am prepared to walk away. We will see what she comes back with. Supposedly in Naples this car is HOT. Meanwhile they had plenty on the lot so who knows. I would jump on the 550 if they could just do the same lease rate. It would make my year
 
Neil
#50 of 111
Re: GL-450 by softwareguru
Mar 11, 2008 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Feb 22, 2008 1:53 am)

I was looking at the GL-450 4matic all wheel w/12K yr
The GL is priced at just about $57,000
 
I want a 36mth lease or something around that.
 
Can someone tell me the best lease that I should be looking for?
 
Thanks
Martin
#51 of 111
GL 320 cdi or 450 by mssurrey
Mar 14, 2008 (5:50 am)
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ocautoseeker-
 
I'm looking at leasing a GL (diesel or gas) but I have an advantage of obtaining a MB family discount through my brother which equals 12.25% off the MSRP.
 
I'm looking for a 'zero down' deal where I only pay the first month and any bank fee ($795? from above post) at signing for a 27 month lease (as this seems to be the sweet spot according to MB or a 33 month lease) with 12 or 15K miles per year.
 
What are the residuals and MF for these mileages and lease terms?
 
Also, can I still expect to negotiate any further on the cap cost and whether there are any 'incentives' (eg bonus, cash back etc) available on the GL at this time?
 
Finally, what 'fees' can I expect (and be able to negotiate on) ?
 
Thanks for your help ocautoseeker
#52 of 111
Re: GL 320 cdi or 450 [mssurrey] by ocautoseeker
Mar 15, 2008 (3:33 am)
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Replying to: mssurrey (Mar 14, 2008 5:50 am)

For the GL450, 33 months is the best term on this vehicle right now.
 
33 mo - Residual - 59% (15k-mi) - .00155 Base Rate
(Add 2% for 12k-mi, add 3% for 10k-mi)
 
A 12.25% discount is very aggressive on this vehicle!
 
Let me know what state you live in and/or your local tax rate and I'd be happy to figure your lease payments based on the terms above. I need the MSRP.
#53 of 111
Re: GL 320 cdi or 450 [ocautoseeker] by mssurrey
Mar 15, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Mar 15, 2008 3:33 am)

I leaning towards the 320 CDi (diesel) due to its better fuel economy 18mpg as compared to 13 mpg city (for the 450)
 
I was old that there is a 27 month deal as well - perhaps you can let me know on both the 27 and the 33 month deals? I'm looking at 12K miles p.a. with Zero down (other than first month and bank acq fee).
 
Tax = 6%
MSRP (inc all options required) is $68,415
Cap cost = $60,034 ? (less MB family disc of 12.25%) - any adevrtising fees or cash bonus etc to be deducted ?
Acq fee = $795
Doc fee = $ ?
Registration fees = ?
 
I don't think a security dep or disp fee is required as I am a present MBF customer
and will be going from one MB into another.
#54 of 111
Variations in MF & residuals by loh1320
Mar 15, 2008 (11:39 am)
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I am in WV, the local dealer has quoted a higher MF and lower residuals than have been posted on this site. Are the MF and residuals standard through out the country?
Is there an official MB site that lists the MF & residuals? Do the MFs go up when the slow winter season (January-March) in the North is past? Historically what happens to the MF & residuals when the next years models come out? Any insight or advice would be appreciated.
#55 of 111
Re: Variations in MF & residuals [loh1320] by ocautoseeker
Mar 15, 2008 (11:48 pm)
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Replying to: loh1320 (Mar 15, 2008 11:39 am)

Are you looking for a GL450 or 550, as the there are NO special rates on the 550.
 
Rates can vary from region.
 
Money factors typically change month-to-month. Residuals typically change quartely (not always), but the later in the model year, the lower the residual as the vehicle gets closer and closer to a full years depreciation.
 
Special financing, leases, rebates, marketing support etc. are all indications that sales are down for a particular vehicle. Hence, the specials that entice consumers to buy or lease.
 
Auto sales is a market driven industry.
 
Here are MBC's buy rates and current residuals:
 
* 2008 GL320 CDI
24 Month – Residual 62% – .00155
36 Month – Residual 54% – .00175
48 Month – Residual 46% – .00175
60 Month – Residual 40% – .00320
 
* 2008 GL450
24 Month – Residual 63% – .00155
36 Month – Residual 56% – .00175
48 Month – Residual 44% – .00175
60 Month – Residual 39% – .00320
 
* Based on 15k annual miles. Add 2% for 12k, add 3% for 10k.
#56 of 111
Re: GL 320 cdi or 450 [mssurrey] by ocautoseeker
Mar 16, 2008 (12:09 am)
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Replying to: mssurrey (Mar 15, 2008 9:20 am)

Is the MSRP you gave me on the 450 or the 320 CDI? I ask because the residuals differ by 1%.
 
Numbers based on 12k annual miles for a 33 month term.
 
For a GL 450, your payments would be $764.16/mo. (includes tax)
 
For a GL 320, your payments would be $785.01/mo. (includes tax)
 
~ drive off fees: $764.16 (1st mo. pymt) + $795 (MB lease acq. fee) + ~$525 (DMV Fees) + ~$100 (misc.local fees such as tire fee, doc fee, electronic dmv filing fee, etc.)
 
~ $2200 due at signing. All or some of the above can be rolled into your lease payments.
 
All the information I have points to 33 months being the most advantageous term.

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