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Mercedes Benz GL-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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#51 of 433
Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [gls69] by bmwmatt
Feb 03, 2007 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: gls69 (Jan 24, 2007 11:26 pm)

The real problem is that the factory pays holdback. This allows the dealer to decide, do i give away all the profit and take only the holdback? This is usually a YES if the dealer is a large enterprise (autonation, sonic, etc..) but for the little guy down the road, he cannot survive on only holdback. The sales and service staff don't get paid on holdback. Only the owner. So should sales and service work for free? no. So now you have a huge discrepancy between dealers, on brands that pay a huge holdback, Mercedes Benz being one of them. BMW/Porsche/Lexus, are typically much closer in price. You can go two two different MBZ dealers and have a difference of 5-6k on an E350.
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Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [bmwmatt] by gls69
Feb 10, 2007 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: bmwmatt (Feb 03, 2007 2:31 pm)

I see you had no rebuttal for my points on dealer deception which IS the REAL problem. However, I agree with you on the specifics of "holdback". So why would any but the most uniformed consumer go to a dealer and pay "5-6K" more?
PS Please spare me the colonic smoke of trying to justify it based upon "service".
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Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [gls69] by anthony555
Feb 10, 2007 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: gls69 (Feb 10, 2007 9:33 am)

It's amazes me the nonsense people spew on these "prices paid" boards. The deal GLFAN says he got is at best an exaggeration. All these boards are really good for are people who want to boast about unobtainable deals they never actually got. Why would a dealer lose $2,000 on a new GL. MBUSA is not subsidizing the GL like Ford subsidizes everything it makes. Why wouldn't the dealer just sell it for invoice to another dealer who can sell it. I wish people would just tell the truth.
 
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Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [anthony555] by mercara
Feb 10, 2007 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: anthony555 (Feb 10, 2007 4:38 pm)

You got to be out of your mind to think some people are so sick to come an boast about how much off invoice they bought a car for? There are many reasons why a dealer may choose to give it less than invoice. Shut up and go buy the car at MSRP if you want.
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Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [mercara] by anthony555
Feb 11, 2007 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: mercara (Feb 10, 2007 5:35 pm)

Yah, a MB dealer is going to sell the hottest luxury SUV on the PLANET and lose $2,000??? Let me ask you this? If they are selling their HOTTEST car at a loss, then what must they be selling the cars for that aren't so hot? Reply to that one. 80-85% +++ of what's posted here is BOGUS. It just makes people feel better. LOL!!!!!
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Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [anthony555] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 11, 2007 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: anthony555 (Feb 11, 2007 6:16 am)

Okay.. everyone that posts here is a liar..
 
Then, why are you here? To call them all liars?
 
Tell us what you paid for your GL.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [kyfdx] by anthony555
Feb 11, 2007 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 11, 2007 9:53 am)

kyfdx,
 
To answer your first question... No! I am not here to call people liars. I paid $1,500 over invoice for the hottest SUV on the planet. I felt the selling dealer was entitled to make a measly $1,500 profit on a $60K investment that he made. I just got back from my selling dealer and showed him this thread. We work GLFAN's deal backwards TOGETHER on his computer based of a $66,000 MSRP car they had in stock. With $4,100 total drive-offs, the payment was $835.xx with tax. Backing it up to $680 plus tax was a $4,300 UNDER invoice deal.
 
That deal my friend, like a lot of other deals on this board NEVER HAPPENED. They are nothing more than figments of peoples imaginations.
 
Also, I am looking my MB contract as I type this. The acqusition fee cannot be altered upward or downward. He said they tried to charge him $1,195? LOL! The bank fee is already IMPRINTED on the contract.
 
I'll do you one better Mr. Host. Email GLFAN, tell him I live 30-minutes from where he bought his car. I bought my car in Buena Park. And I know Edmunds is in So Cal also. Let's all meet at Edmunds with GLFAN's contract. Before I see his contract I will hand you $2,500 in cash. If GLFAN's numbers hold water to what he previously posted, the money is yours and his. If his numbers do not, I get my money back and you, as the HOST, post a thread here that says: "Not at deals posted in these Forums are true and accurate deals." How about that? I'll be WAITING for a response.
 
Mr. Host, I know that'll never happen. Guess what I notice while I am browsing on Edmunds.com. On the right side of your pages? And on the left side of your pages? Yah, you guessed it. NEW CAR DEALER advertisments. YUP!!!!! Without them, this site is nothing. Zilch! Nada! People should be aware that what goes on in these forums are not always what truly happens. Coincidentally, someone who actually get a REAL good deal, doesn't need to boast about in these rarely read forums. I would assume that MB has delivered 30-40,000 GL's by now. This thread has under 60-posts, mainly by 3-4 boners who either never bought a GL or have a want or need to brag about how their selling dealer LOST $4,000 +++...
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i got paid the total industrial-era world GNP to take a GL by elias
Feb 11, 2007 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: anthony555 (Feb 11, 2007 11:48 am)

tony fives, you are misinformed if you think you know the dealer's profit, unless you are the owner/board-member/contracts-dude. the price they paid to acquire your GL is private. whether they lose/make money is private. it's not for us to know.
also, your point is well taken that many of the deals boasted on these boards could be misinformation.
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Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [anthony555] by gls69
Feb 11, 2007 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: anthony555 (Feb 11, 2007 11:48 am)

I am responsible for postings #27,29,31,36,43,48,& 52. Since you replied to my #52 post, I assume I have been lumped in with the liars, and am one of the "3-4 boners" who "spew nonsense".
Therefore, I am picking up your gauntlet and asking you to offer a similar wager as the one you so demonstrably waived at GLFAN and the host. I bought my GL with cash and have the pink slip. If you prove that my deal was false you can have my car.
If I have been accurate and truthful on this forum then you owe me the pink slip for your car.
Personally, this forum has been very helpful to me, and I have tried to provide useful information to others looking for a GL. I didn't boast about screwing the dealer, but sent them additional business for being low cost, but HONEST.
Hopefully your brain isn't as big as your mouth, and I'll own two GLs soon.
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Re: Got it for $1400 below invoice. Is that good? [anthony555] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 11, 2007 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: anthony555 (Feb 11, 2007 11:48 am)

Hey... we'll get rid of the advertisements if you like.. Just mail us a check for $0.50 for every page that you view..
 
I get your point... you don't think that anyone could have possibly achieved a better deal than you did.. and your dealer agrees with you!!
 
I guess that proves it... case closed..
 
Turn out the lights when you leave.. I guess there is no further need for this particular discussion.
 
regards,
kyfdx

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