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Lexus GS 450h Lease Questions

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What is this discussion about? Lexus GS 450h, Hybrid Cars, Car Leasing, Car Buying, Sedan


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Re: Lexus GS 450h: Lease Questions [eccentric2] by Car_man HOST
May 31, 2006 (2:30 am)
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Replying to: eccentric2 (May 16, 2006 7:36 pm)

Hi eccentric2. Multiple security deposits are an excellent way to lower your vehicle's lease payment. They certainly are a whole lot better than making a down payment because you will get them back at the end of your lease and you should be able to get them back if your vehicle is considered a total loss for insurance purposes. If you were to lease a 2006 Lexus GS 450h without any security deposit through Lexus Financial Services right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00255 and 55%, respectively assuming that you qualify for its "Tier 1+" credit tier.
 
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Question about the current special offer by dulnev
Jan 13, 2007 (8:00 pm)
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I'm about to lease a 450h and I know there is a special lease rate in effect until April 2, 2007. But the Lexus web site only mentions that there is a special offer, without providing any details. The dealer I'm leasing from says the special money factor is 0.00255 (that's for the top tier credit quality - over 730 FICO score), which translates into roughly 6% APR, as opposed to the normal rate of 0.0028, which translates to 6.7%. The 6% rate does not appear to be special at all! Does anyone have any information on the actual offer?
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Re: Question about the current special offer [dulnev] by Car_man HOST
Jan 17, 2007 (3:31 am)
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Replying to: dulnev (Jan 13, 2007 8:00 pm)

Hello dulnev. The special lease money factor that you were quoted for the 2007 GS 450h looks about right to me.
 
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Re: Question about the current special offer [Car_man] by dulnev
Jan 17, 2007 (4:36 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 17, 2007 3:31 am)

I actually got a bit more information on another forum, and it turns out that the best money factor available is 0.00245 for borrowers in the top credit tier (over 730 FICO). The difference in the monthly payment from the originally quoted 0.00255 factor (for borrowers in the 690-730 bracket) is only $8 a month.
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Re: Lexus GS 450h: Lease Questions [eccentric2] by amg_driver
Feb 11, 2007 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: eccentric2 (May 17, 2006 6:42 pm)

Eccentric the only green thin about the GS is the amount of money one myst pay to drive them. Are they really that green with 300 ponies!
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Re: Lexus GS 450h: Lease Questions [eccentric2] by amg_driver
Feb 11, 2007 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: eccentric2 (May 17, 2006 6:42 pm)

Eccentric the only green thing about the GS is the amount of money one must pay to drive them. Are they really that green with 300 ponies!
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trying to lease an 08 by juanbron
Feb 03, 2008 (10:03 pm)
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I have made tons of calls to fleet managers, etc. and it seems that the gs450h, leases for a tremendous amount more than commensurate cars in its class. Granted, its the only hybrid in its class, but if you build a 2008 535i and get it to just about the same equipment level of the gs450h, and they have a very similar msrp, the 535i leases for a tremendous amount less. Not to bore you with all the specifics, but on minimum drive off leases, on a 36 month 12k lease the price difference is around 150 dollars more per month for the gs hybrid. I am trying desperately to lease this car but feel its a rip off because Lexus sets its residual value so low. Couple this with the fact that bmw pays for brake pads, etc. and i have a hard time pulling the trigger.
My questions is what is the secret to leasing this great car at a price more in line with what bmw is leasing its cars at? Or do i just bite the bullet and buy the car?
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Re: trying to lease an 08 [juanbron] by eights38
Feb 04, 2008 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: juanbron (Feb 03, 2008 10:03 pm)

juanbron - Let's see what Lexus and BMW do in February. Just a note, BMWs lease well because they typically have very strong residual values, so the depreciation expense in significantly less. If you need more help, please feel free to email me.
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Re: trying to lease an 08 [eights38] by bmwconvert
Feb 08, 2008 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: eights38 (Feb 04, 2008 4:54 am)

I have an '07 with 18k miles that I took delivery of back in May 2006 (one of the 1st delivered). Willingly paid sticker to get it when it came out, so can't complain about the price. What has upset me is that the value has dropped precipitously. I recently asked my Lexus dealer and a Mercedes dealer where I was considering a swap, to get me a quote on the car. Lexus came back with a $38k bid and Mercedes with $43k (higher no doubt because they were going to make money on the sale of the new car to me, and generally a more aggressive dealer).
 
The explanation I received from both dealers is that there is NO resale market for this car, therefore few wholesalers are interested in bidding for it. It worries me for a year or two down the road with what it's going to be worth. I also think people are scared about how the batteries are going to hold up.
 
I kept the car and remain reasonably happy with it. Nothing I can do about the value now, but it's something that new buyers and leasers should consider. There's obviously a reason why Lexus is putting the residuals so low on the leases. It appears to reflect reality.
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Market Changing by drlease
Feb 29, 2008 (10:00 am)
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The Market looks like it may be droping now. I talked to a Leasing Company in Ohio (Thompson and Ward Leasing) I found by searching New GS450h on Autotrader in Columbus. A new 08, MSRP $60,350, Said he would sell it for $55980, AND could get a .00234 mf on the car. I passed because the car was red and I want black, but I think it shows the direction of the Market.

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