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Re: Color question [audiguy2]
by quattroporte12
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Jul 15, 2006 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: audiguy2 (Jul 13, 2006 2:13 am)
Wow! that is a very nice color (even nicer cars)! Too bad it only comes with the S-line package... About to order a Condor Grey Q7. I like the Quartz Grey more, except for the fact that is has a white-ish color bottom trim, where as the Condor Grey has a matte finish grey trim. Would definetly get the Daytona if it was available without the S-Line package.
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Invoice Pricing - "Advertising" and "Preparation and Inspection" Fee's
by newq7
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Jul 16, 2006 (11:59 am)
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Hi Folks:
I'm in the process of negotiating to buy a pair of Audi Q7 Premium's loaded to the gills. I've talked to several dealers. One just offered to sell the cars for $500 over "invoice" each.
When it came time to begin writing up the contracts, 2 new charges miraculously appeared. One is called “NY Upstate Dealer Advertising Group” for $300, and the other is called “Preparation and Inspection” at $195.
I’ve searched here and Consumer Reports and can not find either of these charges listed. The dealer is insisting that these are both charges that the dealership pays and that they are billed by the manufacturer. He even gave me a copy of another Q7’s invoice that does in fact show both charges. That invoice carries a notice on the bottom that reads “Prices illustrated above are subject to change prior to drafting and final shipment”.
I had arrived at a price by simply adding up the wholesale price of the car and each option selected and then adding the “Destination Charge”. I thought that by simply adding another $500 I’d have the price of the car. These "extra charges" adds another $495 to the deal.
Re these charges for real – or is it a scam?
Does the manufacturer rebate this to the dealers to allow them more profit – beyond invoice – in a manner like holdback?
By the way, I’m told that Audi does not do “holdback”. Edmund’s site shows none. There appear to be no promotions available for Q7’s yet. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Thanks!
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Re: Color question [quattroporte12]
by rbirns1
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Jul 17, 2006 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: quattroporte12 (Jul 15, 2006 8:31 pm)
I have a Condor Gray on order. Still haven't seen one in person, but the samples looks nice and the one on order has the right options for me. If you have seen it in person, could you describe it? Maybe compare it to another vehicle?
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- #54 of 823
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Re: Color question [rbirns1]
by quattroporte12
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Jul 17, 2006 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: rbirns1 (Jul 17, 2006 6:17 am)
The condor grey is a very nice color. It is hard to compare to something because it is so unique. It looks a lot like the Quartz grey from a distance, and when you get up close to it, there is a very noticable green/blue tint. It is one of those colors that changes depending on the light. It is similar to the color that the Q7 Hybrid is pictured in, http://img.meinestadt.de/pix/neuwagen/">link titleaudi-q7-1.jpg ,just toned down a bit, with more grey in it.
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Re: Color question [rbirns1]
by rjlaero
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Jul 22, 2006 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: rbirns1 (Jul 17, 2006 6:17 am)
Condor is a very nice color. It tends to have a very light greeinsh hue to it, and it's less "gray" than the name implies.
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Re: Just put one on hold! [rbirns1]
by Car_man HOST
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Jul 26, 2006 (2:33 am)
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Replying to: rbirns1 (Jul 09, 2006 4:27 pm)
Hi rbirns1. The money factor that you were quoted for the '07 Q7 3.6 that you are interested in is right in line with Audi Financial Services' current buy rate for it, assuming that you are having your security deposit waived. This is a good sign because it means that the dealer you are working with is not trying to mark your vehicle's money factor up to add additional back-end profit to your deal. As far as the selling price goes, a $1,300 discount seems reasonable to me for a new model like the Q7 3.6, but you may want to stop by the following discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar vehicles lately: "Audi Q7: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
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Re: Invoice Pricing - "Advertising" and "Preparation and Inspection" Fee's
by Car_man HOST
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Jul 26, 2006 (2:45 am)
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Replying to: newq7 (Jul 16, 2006 11:59 am)
Hi newq7. I wouldn't exactly call this a scam, but the dealer that you are working with is definitely trying to hook you with a low price and then cloud the picture by adding all sorts of little fees to your deal. This is why I always advise consumers to focus on the out-the-door price of the car or truck that they want. This number gives you a clean figure that you can use to shop around. The dealer ad fee that the dealer is trying to pass on to you is legitimate, but the prep fee sounds like nothing more than added dealer profit. Regardless of whether these fees are legitimate or not, the price of $1,000 (which is what the price that you were quoted essentially is when all the fees are taken into account) over the dealer invoice price that is mentioned here at Edmunds.com is still a fair deal for this truck. While there is lease support available on it, Audi is not currently providing any cash incentives on the 2007 Q7.
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Re: Invoice Pricing - "Advertising" and "Preparation and Inspection" Fee's [Car_man]
by newq7
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Jul 26, 2006 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jul 26, 2006 2:45 am)
Hi Car_man:
Thanks. Papers written at $750 over Edmunds/Consumer Reports invoice. That includes what the dealer insists is a real $300 "advertising fee". If true he is getting $450 over Edmunds invoice price as his markup.
Please tell me more about "lease support". Also any idea what the financing deals may be like in 90 days when the car comes in?
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Re: Invoice Pricing - "Advertising" and "Preparation and Inspection" Fee's
by Car_man HOST
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Aug 13, 2006 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: newq7 (Jul 26, 2006 6:48 pm)
No problem, newq7. It sounds like you are getting this truck for a very good price. Audi is not currently providing any special financing rates on this truck. It is difficult to say what its incentives will be like when you take delivery of yours in several months. Right now, Audi has a decent special lease program on the Q7. Its money factors vary depending upon what model you want and how long you lease it for. To give you an example of what they are like, Audi Financial Services' current buy rate money factor for a 36 month lease of a base '07 Q7 3.6L is .00175. This is equivalent to an interest rate of around 4.2%. Again it is difficult to say what this vehicle's lease program will be like when yours finally arrives.
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Good Deal
by ccap
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Aug 17, 2006 (4:45 am)
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Working with my salesman whom I have purchased Audi's before. Q7 lease is as follows
MSRP $56370.00 and my cost is $52015.00. He will split the profit and take $2178.00 off the Q7.
Sell for $54192.00
Lease for 36 months with 10k is 759.30 with the tax. 12K is $774.88.
Is this a good deal?
Thanks
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