Last post on Jan 19, 2007 at 11:52 PM
You are in the Honda Accord
What is this discussion about?
Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, Sedan
#383 of 432 Re: Accord has better styling, proof in photos... [neteng101]
Jan 19, 2007 (11:37 am)
Didn't you say it is our individual tastes that matter since it is our individual dollars being spent? The LED tail lights on ANY car are hideous to me. I mean, down right hideous (including the Milan). The chrome around the exhaust on the Accord is also there on the SEL V6 Fusion and the cut-outs in the rear bumper for the tail pipes is much nicer in the Fusion. Trunk lids? Are you serious? The Fusion's trunk lid is far less boring than the Accord. Plus, the (fake) chrome around the lights on the Fusion is much more attractive than the bland Accord.
Some might find the Fusion more stylish? J.D. Power surveys show LOTS of people do...
Who won the APEAL award for this class in 2006? Hint: it wasn't the Accord.
#384 of 432 Re: fusion is better [akirby]
Jan 19, 2007 (11:43 am)
Funny how every comparison test done (not sponsored by Ford) by every magazine, agrees with me. The only people who agree with your opinion, are Fusion owners, and Ford. And these testers don't just sit in the cars. They actually drive them (for miles not just around the block), and check out the ergonomics, comfort, and how everything comes together to make the best package. But Fusion owners know more about cars, than people who test cars for a living, right?
#385 of 432 Re: Test [stevesjc]
Jan 19, 2007 (11:46 am)
Right out of the gate I will tell you that I am in car sales. I know right away that sends chills up some of your spines, but I take pride in my work and the type of sales consultant that I am. I am very fortunate to work for a company that allows me to sell (New) Honda, Toyota, Ford, Chevy, Jeep, Dodge, Hyundai, Acura, Lexus, Chrysler, and Subaru.
As a consultant I am not there to change the customers mind, my job is to give them all the information on the vehicles of interest and help them make an informed decision on the 2nd biggest purchase of their lives.
But this Forum is about opinions, and I have a very strong opinion when it comes to the the better car between the Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, and Toyota Camry. I am fortunate to be in a situation where I hear the pros and cons to all three vehicles. I get direct feedback from the customers and I hear what manufactors don't want the public to know. You know little things like the fact that Toyota had more recalls on their vehicles then the total number of vehicles sold last year. You don't hear about that on the nightly news. Or how about this review from a honda customer: "This is by far the worst car I have owned during last 40 years. I would definately put Honda behind all US maufactures in build and quality. Considering the price difference it would be foolish to buy Honda. The transmission lag is most annoying and brakes are soooooo bad." The only pro that this customer could come up with was the resale value. Who wants to drive a car they hate and the only positive thing they can come up with is that they won't loose their ass to much when they go to sell it or trade it in.
I could go on and on about these other two, but I have much more exciting things to talk about. The FORD FUSION!!! The Fusion and I share a similar philosophy in life, "If you got it Flaunt it"! The Fusion lives up to that from the bold attention getting look on the outside all the way through the inside and to the back where you find more trunk space then some manufactors have in their SUV's. Fusion has an aggressive but sleek look that begs for you to come out and play. And once you get behind the wheel you will be looking forward to the commute to work. The Fusion doesn't want the attention of drive bys alone, once you slip inside and find the pampering you expect to find in luxury cars you'll be pinching yourself to see if you are dreaming. The contrast stiching (which resembles a Liz Claiborne purse I own)on the opitonal leather trimmed seats are the first thing you will notice. Then you will find the chrome ringed analog clock, woodgrain or piano black instrument panel, plus other luxuries like audio and temp controls on the steering wheel, heated seats, navagation, and the list goes on and on. These are options that you can get on the SEL package, but the great part about the Fusion is the opitons. There is a Fusion perfect for every buyer. You can get automatic, or maual, it comes in an I-4 or a V6, and the Ford Fusion has an available class-exclusive All-Wheel-Drive system. The best part is that whether you are purchasing an S, Se, or SEL package you won't be sacrificing on appearance, the thrill of driving, and it will lesson your stops at the fuel pump. And when the Fusion out slalomed a Mercedes-Benz C55 AMG on the track, autoweek concluded, "Outstanding might be understating it."
I can go on and on about why I feel and consumers feel "It's the best looking car in it's class",(edmunds.com)or about it being power-packed, thrilling to drive, and I haven't even touched on the structure and safety you have with the Fusion.
To me Fusion has no competition. Unfortunately there is a perception gap that domestic manufactures have to overcome.
#386 of 432 Re: fusion is better [elroy5]
Jan 19, 2007 (11:47 am)
No, people who OWN the cars know more than those who test cars for a living. J.D. Power surveys OWNERS of the vehicles themselves and found that the Fusion is more appealing than the Accord.
You have magazines (with paid editors...paid by whom, exactly...) and I have unbiased research. I stand by my claims.
#387 of 432 Re: fusion is better [elroy5]
Jan 19, 2007 (11:52 am)
I have only two response to what you have said. First off you need to recheck your comparison tests and "every magazine". Fusion has blown the others out in comparisons.
And last time I checked consumer reports are usually what most people turn to when looking to buy any large purchase. I want to hear from an actual owner who drives one every day, someone who knows the car inside and out.
As I said before, it's a perception gap.
#388 of 432 Re: fusion is better [stevesjc]
Jan 19, 2007 (11:53 am)
Again, we are all entitled to our opinions. No one is right and no one is wrong - we have different priorities that lead to each of us to decide what works best for our own needs.
What we are doing here is comparing the attributes we see in each vehicle that matter the most to us. What we do not need to be doing is telling others that their opinions are somehow "wrong" because opinions are neither right nor wrong. They just are.
#389 of 432 Re: fusion is better [pat]
Jan 19, 2007 (12:03 pm)
We are all sharing our opinions and citing the opinions of others who agree with us. I don't see how this violates the intent of this thread. Nor do I see you slapping the wrists of Accord fans.
Where did I say anyone was "wrong?" All I did was cite opinions that agree with mine, just like Accord fans are doing...
#390 of 432 Re: Test [amer79]
Jan 19, 2007 (12:08 pm)
Wow, this is amazing. Out slalomed a MB, but not an Accord. Power-packed, but the Accord is more powerful. Lessons stops at the fuel pump, but gets worse mileage than an Accord. Please don't touch on safety, because the Fusion comes up short there too.
Even your screen name shows your bias (amer79). You should at least try to be less obvious. It seems your perception is warped. Not the rest of the world's. I would really like to know which comparison test had the Fusion ahead of the Accord.
#391 of 432 Re: fusion is better [stevesjc]
Jan 19, 2007 (12:10 pm)
I don't see where anyone said the intent of the thread has been violated. I'm just pointing out to everyone, no matter what vehicle he/she is a fan of, that we're discussing opinions here and that, by definition, means no one is wrong.
Let's bring things down a few notches, please
#392 of 432 Re: Test [elroy5]
Jan 19, 2007 (12:10 pm)
Tell that to Consumer Reports, J.D. Power, and the thousands of people they surveyed regarding the Accord and Fusion. The Fusion wins with real owners and the Accord wins with paid editors. I'll take real owners anyday.