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1122 messages, Last post on Oct 19, 2009 at 7:14 AM
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| Has anyone and/or LRGuy44, British Rover, etc., heard or seen anything pertaining to changes or improvements large or small to the 2009 model year ? | |
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Mar 17, 2008 5:50 pm) They did add that they experienced similar behaviour in 2003 with the BMW X5 3.0i and that a software change fixed the beemer's problem. Perhaps if LR jumps on this issue they could have it fixed in time for the Sept issue? As of now though it seems RSC doesn't help at least in this test. Sorry folks, just the facts cause I'm considering this vehicle and I watch closely for any info. I expect to hear that Land Rover has fixed this issue and will issue a TSB or a recall or something. Course, gota explain it to the folks at TATA first. Oh, they also said they're getting a disappointing 18 mpg overall. Ugh. If that's the case, I'll stick with my Navigator.
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Apr 05, 2008 8:00 am) I am trying to find a video of the moose test they do in Europe as I am sure it is a better conducted test then anything CR does. The roll stability control is a more advanced Volvo unit so I just don't see this happening unless there was a malfunction or unless CR deliberately tried to get the car to flip like they did with the Samurai. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/volvo-xc90-suv-moose/3034785664 Closest thing I have found so far. The problem is the defender failed the moose test, not surprising considering how old the defender is, and so every link is to videos on the defender test.
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Replying to: british_rover (Apr 05, 2008 8:34 am) CR aint perfect, but they test EVERY car the same way. If the LR2's wheels came off the ground, and no other CUV/SUV did, THAT's a scary thing. Probably most people would've flipped. You can put blinders on if u want. BMW apparently responded correctly. If LR doesn't address this, they are OFF my short list. Oh, and you're wrong about the outcome of the Suzuki lawsuit: "In 1996 Consumer Reports was the subject of a lawsuit by Suzuki Motors regarding a road test of the Suzuki Samurai that the magazine had published in 1988. Suzuki alleged that the magazine's test of the company's popular off-roader had been skewed so as to show that the vehicle was prone to tipping over during an avoidance test (an equivalent of other magazines' "elk test"). The lawsuit was dismissed by mutual consent in 2004." -source suv_rollovers.com |
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Apr 05, 2008 8:00 am) Regards, Tom
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Replying to: serranot (Apr 06, 2008 3:33 pm) It's called "emergency manuevering test". Get it? Emergency. So your method when a deer jumps out in front of you is to just hit the deer then?
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Apr 07, 2008 6:19 am) If your theory (and CR's) was right, my insurance rates on the Trooper would have reflected CR's fears long ago. But that didn't happen. 
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Replying to: serranot (Apr 07, 2008 5:03 pm) If you're smart, you stomp on the brakes first.  tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper |
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Will be interesting to see if VDC software change and/or suspension change is needed to fix the tippy behavour. We have deer in our area too - perhaps a "deer alert" device is appropiate? |
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Apr 05, 2008 8:00 am) "The vehicle includes electronic stability control (ESC) with roll stability control as standard equipment. The latter is supposed to trigger at a certain body angle and prevent a rollover. However, in a run through our avoidance-maneuver course at 53 mph, the vehicle momentarily lifted both right-side wheels several inches off the ground. That did not happen in any other runs, but because we think that no vehicle should ever display this behavior, we've rated the LR2's emergency handling as poor. The vehicle's fastest successful run through the course was a decent 51.5 mph. In 2003 we experienced a similar behavior with the previous generation BMW X5 3.0i. A software change fixed the problem." You'll note they say "a" run - meaning one of multiple runs they put the LR2 through. They go on to speak well of the car. The Suzuki reference is yours and yours alone. Between that, your view of Tata acquiring Land Rover and the LR2s gas mileage it's obviously not the car for you.
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