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Land Rover LR2 Info from across "The Pond" by manup
Mar 19, 2008 (7:29 am)
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http://www.autoincar.com/tata-assures-jaguar-rover-workers-of-retaining-brands-t- ouch/
 
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/218916/land_rover.html
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Re: Land Rover LR2 Info from across "The Pond" [manup] by kurtamaxxxguy
Mar 28, 2008 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: manup (Mar 19, 2008 7:29 am)

2nd item is impressive. If LR gets their reliability up as well and manage to make the vehicle more efficient while retaining the "Land Rover" feel and idenity, I suspect it could do well.
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2009 LR2 by manup
Mar 31, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Has anyone and/or LRGuy44, British Rover, etc., heard or seen anything pertaining to changes or improvements large or small to the 2009 model year ?
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Re: CR's take by jeyhoe
Apr 05, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Mar 17, 2008 5:50 pm)

This month's Consumer Reports has a few paragraphs they call "First Look" at the LR2. And their news aint good. Remember the Suzuki Samurai? Well, it's like that. CR says that, despite the LR2 having advancetrak with RSC, that the car "momentarily lifted both right-side wheels several inches off the ground" during a 53 mph run thru their avoidance-manuever course. Their full report wont be out til Sept, but as of now they rate the emergency handling as poor. Apparently they felt this important enough to report on now and in the Up Front section of the mag.
 
They did add that they experienced similar behaviour in 2003 with the BMW X5 3.0i and that a software change fixed the beemer's problem. Perhaps if LR jumps on this issue they could have it fixed in time for the Sept issue? As of now though it seems RSC doesn't help at least in this test. Sorry folks, just the facts cause I'm considering this vehicle and I watch closely for any info. I expect to hear that Land Rover has fixed this issue and will issue a TSB or a recall or something. Course, gota explain it to the folks at TATA first.
 
Oh, they also said they're getting a disappointing 18 mpg overall. Ugh. If that's the case, I'll stick with my Navigator.
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Re: CR's take [jeyhoe] by british_rover
Apr 05, 2008 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Apr 05, 2008 8:00 am)

Sorry I don't believe it. The Samurai thing was complete BS too. CR settled with Suzuki out of court for that incident.
 
I am trying to find a video of the moose test they do in Europe as I am sure it is a better conducted test then anything CR does. The roll stability control is a more advanced Volvo unit so I just don't see this happening unless there was a malfunction or unless CR deliberately tried to get the car to flip like they did with the Samurai.
 
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/volvo-xc90-suv-moose/3034785664
 
Closest thing I have found so far.
 
The problem is the defender failed the moose test, not surprising considering how old the defender is, and so every link is to videos on the defender test.
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Re: CR's take [british_rover] by jeyhoe
Apr 05, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Apr 05, 2008 8:34 am)

Boy, is THAT the wrong attitude.
 
CR aint perfect, but they test EVERY car the same way. If the LR2's wheels came off the ground, and no other CUV/SUV did, THAT's a scary thing. Probably most people would've flipped. You can put blinders on if u want. BMW apparently responded correctly. If LR doesn't address this, they are OFF my short list.
 
Oh, and you're wrong about the outcome of the Suzuki lawsuit:
 
"In 1996 Consumer Reports was the subject of a lawsuit by Suzuki Motors regarding a road test of the Suzuki Samurai that the magazine had published in 1988. Suzuki alleged that the magazine's test of the company's popular off-roader had been skewed so as to show that the vehicle was prone to tipping over during an avoidance test (an equivalent of other magazines' "elk test"). The lawsuit was dismissed by mutual consent in 2004."
 
-source suv_rollovers.com
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Re: CR's take [jeyhoe] by serranot
Apr 06, 2008 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Apr 05, 2008 8:00 am)

I use CR for buying toasters, but not a fan of them for car tests. They said the same thing for Troopers. I note that my insurance has not gone up at all for my Trooper. Why? Because people simply do not do the avoidance maneuver that CR uses. People are not stupid enough to jerk the wheel like CR does in their tests. Their test is only valid if one drives the car like CR tests it.
 
Regards,
Tom
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Re: CR's take [serranot] by jeyhoe
Apr 07, 2008 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: serranot (Apr 06, 2008 3:33 pm)

"People are not stupid enough to jerk the wheel like CR does in their tests. Their test is only valid if one drives the car like CR tests it"
 
It's called "emergency manuevering test". Get it? Emergency.
 
So your method when a deer jumps out in front of you is to just hit the deer then?
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Re: CR's take [jeyhoe] by serranot
Apr 07, 2008 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: jeyhoe (Apr 07, 2008 6:19 am)

If you're smart, you hit the deer. You swerve and whack the ditch, or the tree on the side of the road (which a lot of morons do), your insurance covers it under the collision portion. If you hit the deer, it's covered under comprehensive. I'll hit the deer any day unless the "swerve" is mild. I "get it," sport. I just am smarter because I realize that swerving my Trooper is a whole lot less of a realistic option than swerving my 540i.
 
If your theory (and CR's) was right, my insurance rates on the Trooper would have reflected CR's fears long ago. But that didn't happen.
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Re: CR's take [serranot] by tidester HOST
Apr 07, 2008 (10:45 pm)
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Replying to: serranot (Apr 07, 2008 5:03 pm)

If you're smart, you hit the deer.
 
If you're smart, you stomp on the brakes first.
 
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