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Headlight condensation by mrj0001tj
Feb 09, 2008 (6:09 pm)
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I just drove home from purchasing my new LR2 and I noticed condensation under the lenses on both headlight assembly's. It's concentrated near the turn signal area but extends toward the center of the light. It was raining lightly the whole way home but I didn't even go through any major puddles or standing water. Should I be concerned about this? Anyone else have this happen? I have the lighting package so I don't know if it's unique to that or all LR2's. I'm not too happy having a problem on day one of ownership! Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Headlight condensation [mrj0001tj] by moogles
Feb 09, 2008 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: mrj0001tj (Feb 09, 2008 6:09 pm)

I had condensation in a taillight after a few months with my LR2. Dealer replaced it right away with no hassle and it hasn't happened since. This shouldn't happen in any kind of light, of course. Don't know how much of a problem it is in reality but it seems to me to be asking for trouble with the life span of that light. I assume the dealer will replace them for you no problem.
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Re: MPG [kurtamaxxxguy] by british_rover
Feb 11, 2008 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Feb 06, 2008 7:20 am)

The LR2 was the first Small SUV to score five starts on the European crash test so to say the results are unsettling seems very inaccurate. Are you sure you weren't looking at the old Freelander crash test data?
 
As of right now no in production Land Rover has US crash test data published. Why this is I do not know as some where at sometime the vehicles must have been crash tested but no one has bothered to publish the data. The euro crash test data is fine for me since it is a more stringent test.
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Re: MPG [british_rover] by kurtamaxxxguy
Feb 11, 2008 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Feb 11, 2008 11:21 am)

No, I watched the LR2 movies and yes, it did get 5 stars, but deformed a lot more in those side impacts than other vehicles scoring as or nearly as well. The deformation's disturbing because it suggests that if the pole impact occurred next to the driver (instead of behind him) the injuries would have been much worse.
 
Land Rover told me there are not enough LR2's sold in the USA for testing agencies to justify the expense of crash testing it. They rely on the Euro data to support their safety record. However, the Euro side crash is much different than the USAs'. If one looks at the LR3 results from IIHS testing, they are abysmal .vs. several lighter cars such as Saab, VW and Subaru.
 
I don't know how many other USA vehicles lack crash testing info. Models without it are that much harder to compare to others that do.
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...and I stand corrected... by kurtamaxxxguy
Feb 11, 2008 (10:01 pm)
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....For the pole test on the LR2 did not go behind the driver, but hit the driver square in the shoulder.
What was amazing was the Toyota Yaris scored about the same in the tests, and showed less side deformation. My ___guess___ is all that extra weight in the LR2 caused its ends to try to "wrap around" the pole.
 
Still, it would be very instructional if there were a way to virtually crash cars together to see how they would fare against each other..
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22 inches of water by kurtamaxxxguy
Feb 12, 2008 (8:42 am)
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I read that the LR2 can apparently handle up to 22 inches of water before its engine floods out.
that certainly sounds unique compared to most other vehicles!
 
However..
Will Land Rover __warranty cover__ an LR2 that drives through 22 inches of water and then develops problems later on? Or will that dunk and drive be considered abusing the vehicle?
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Re: MPG [kurtamaxxxguy] by british_rover
Feb 12, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Feb 11, 2008 9:10 pm)

You do realize that the Q7 is a much larger vehicle then the LR2 don't you? The Q7 out weighs the LR2 by about 800 lbs.
 
link title
 
The LR2 scored five stars and the Q7 scored four stars. They both scored the exact same 16 points on side impact tests but the Q7 scored badly on the frontal impact.
 
Front impact
Poor welding resulted in rupture of the footwell area. There was separation of the seam connecting the firewall to the footwell and failure of spot-welds in the footwell and its connection to the A-pillar. Audi have informed us that they have now improved control over this part of production but the car lost points for its performance in this area. Structures in the dashboard presented a potential risk to the knees and femurs of the driver.

 
That is right from the NCAP testing page.
 
I guess I just don't understand what you are trying to argue. Of course the LR2 had more interior deflection then the Q7 because the Q7 is heavier and wider then the LR2 but the test data shows that in the end that didn't matter. The LR2 and Q7 both scored maximum points for the pole test and the LR2 lost a fraction of a point in the regular side impact.
 
In regards to the LR3 performing poorly on the test vs other cars that doesn't make any sense. In frontal impact tests the vehicle is supposed to be crashing into another vehicle of similar size so a LR3 has to hit another 5,800 lbs vehicle. Guess what there aren't many 5,800 lbs vehicles out there for a LR3 to hit.
 
Front impact
Structures in the dashboard presented a potential risk to the knees of both driver and passenger.

 
That is from the LR3 crash test page and it is obvious the LR3 needs knee airbags which it will get during the upcoming interior refresh. The Range Rover picked up knee airbags in the 2007 Range Rover refresh and the LR2 has always had knee airbags.
 
Just look down the Large Off-roader list and you can see that the LR3 is about the same as the other big SUVs. It scored four stars while only three SUVs scored five stars and the X5 got a retest to pick up that fifth star after there was a a problem with the original test vehicle.
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Re: MPG [british_rover] by kurtamaxxxguy
Feb 12, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Feb 12, 2008 10:02 am)

I was mainly studying side impacts, and watching the deformations. The fact that the Q7, in side impact, bent less than the LR2 despite weighing 800 pounds more, proved interesting.
 
A lot of vehicles there got similar side impact ratings. Interesting, as some of the driver dummies were being thrown around a lot more in some vehicles than others.
 
But.... good points wrt the frontal impacts.
 
Hopefully IIHS will someday test an LR2.
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...as for the deep water... by kurtamaxxxguy
Mar 03, 2008 (8:51 am)
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would it be likely that Land Rover would void the warranty of any customer actually trying the 22" deep water drive?
 
Some other "outbacking" manufacturers I queried on this said that once the water goes above the vehicle floorboards, the warranty's toast.
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Got Sunroof Panel Recall Notice today by u2fan1967
Mar 03, 2008 (3:55 pm)
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Hey all,
Just thought I'd share that today I got the official safety recall notice from Land Rover North America for my LR2 in the mail. The recall was for the sunroof panel failures. The recall is for a failure on the sunroof guide which could "cause the sunroof to become detached from its operating mechanism" !! Yikes!
 
I remember reading about folks to which this happened. It must have been scary.
 
I personally haven't had any problems with my sunroof, I love mine, but will still get it replaced.
 
If you own an LR2 and didn't get this notice it says to contact
Land Rover Customer Relationship Center at
 
Land Rover North America
ATTN: Customer Relationship Center
555 MacArthur Boulevard
Mahwah, NJ 07430-2327
1-800-637-6837 Option 9.
 
Happy motoring.

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