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Re: So it's confirmed [sd_driver] by b4wrn
May 14, 2006 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: sd_driver (May 13, 2006 10:22 pm)

I hate to put a damper on the Hybrid discussion,most likely in the future the Fed and state governments are going to levy a special tax on these cars because of the better gas mileage. The owners are not paying their fair share of road (gas)taxes, and this also goes for the natural gas burning cars, which right now are paying no taxes to fix the highways. It is being discussed about using a GPS feature on all cars so the governments know exactly how many miles are driven and tax according to these figures. This means those who drive more get taxed more no matter how fuel efficient the cars they drive.
 
This has not happened yet but look forward to it. I believe it is a coming thing. I agree with hungarian in that smaller engines getting better mileage is better than a hybrid and much simpler to repair.
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Re: So it's confirmed [b4wrn] by gagrice
May 14, 2006 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: b4wrn (May 14, 2006 6:27 am)

This means those who drive more get taxed more no matter how fuel efficient the cars they drive.
 
We discussed this about a year ago. Have not heard how the experiment in Oregon is going. It has to come about as the fleet gets more efficient the highway miles go up and the revenue to repair the roads and bridges goes down.
 
See this thread for the discussion.
 
gagrice, "Highway funding ideas include taxes on hybrids" #2, 27 Nov 2005 10:01 pm
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Your government in "action" by sd_driver
May 14, 2006 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 14, 2006 7:58 am)

The faster we get this current crop of thieves and idiots out of Washington, the better.
 
Unbelievable.
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Re: Your government in "action" [sd_driver] by backy
May 14, 2006 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: sd_driver (May 14, 2006 8:29 am)

This is not a Federal issue but a state issue. Nebraska did this kind of thing awhile ago, and they didn't target hybrids, but hybrids like the Prius fell into the category. The annual "fee" was $75, or $6.25 a month. Big whoop.
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When, exactly? by cmk
May 15, 2006 (6:12 am)
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That's the next-generation Fit, which is due to arrive in 2008.
 
Does that mean, for model year '08, or in '08?
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Re: When, exactly? [cmk] by hungarian83
May 15, 2006 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: cmk (May 15, 2006 6:12 am)

The next generation Fit should be introduced in Japan during the spring or early summer CY2007. If Honda does a global launch spanning a few months (which would make the most sense), the US would probably get the car in fall of 2007 as a MY2008 vehicle.
 
This is all speculation though...
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Re: Your government in "action" [sd_driver] by stevedebi
May 15, 2006 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: sd_driver (May 14, 2006 8:29 am)

"The faster we get this current crop of thieves and idiots out of Washington, the better.
  
Unbelievable."
 
Nope, has nothing to do with Washington or thieves. Europe does not tax by the liter; they have road taxes based on the engine size. They long ago discovered that high MPG cars don't use that much gas.
 
The roads have to be maintained, you see, even if your car only uses 9 gallons per 500 miles, as opposed to the SUV at a gadzillion gallons per 500 miles. There is still 500 miles of road maintenance per car. It is true that heavier vehicles cause more road damage, but that simply would mean that perhaps vehicle taxes should be partially based on weight. No free lunches - someone has to maintain the roads, and that someone expects to be paid.
 
I suggest you follow the above link to view the original thread.
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Re: Your government in "action" [stevedebi] by hungarian83
May 15, 2006 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (May 15, 2006 9:05 am)

"Europe does not tax by the liter"
 
Are you referring to liters of fuel, or liters of engine size?
...a dumb question, but I don't want to wrongly interpret the sentence.
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Re: Your government in "action [stevedebi] by sd_driver
May 15, 2006 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (May 15, 2006 9:05 am)

Fine. The gov needs $ to build roads, etc.
 
But the idea that you punish people financially for purchasing high-mileage vehicles, when we need to weaning ourselves off poisonous oil dependency, is absolutely ludicrous. And any idiot politician that advocates that should be (and will be) drummed out of office--federal, state, or local.
 
A few less tax cuts and millions more hybrids!
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Re: Your government in "action" [hungarian83] by stevedebi
May 16, 2006 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: hungarian83 (May 15, 2006 9:29 am)

"Are you referring to liters of fuel, or liters of engine size? "
 
Not a dumb question at all, my bad. Engine size. That way the larger and more expensive cars pay more, while the smaller cars pay less.
 
That is one reason that turbo technology is so popular in Europe; more HP on less CC engine size.

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