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Replying to: reddroverr (May 08, 2006 4:10 pm) Not enough power to merge into 150 km/h traffic from a short on-ramp or deal with some treacherous quick acceleration city driving either. ...after spending time in the US, and then returning to Europe, sometimes the speed of the traffic there makes my head spin. I would be all for the L12A in the US, but I think this issue has already exhausted itself in these forums several times over.
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Replying to: hungarian83 (May 08, 2006 7:30 pm) I thought Europe had autobahn speedways that make ours look like horse and buggy roads. Do they have long ramps there, or do you just keep your Aygo off them?
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Replying to: reddroverr (May 08, 2006 8:05 pm) Speaking of the Aygo, I was watching a car show that did a review on it and during the test they confidently went on the motorway at realistic speeds without trouble! One more thing that is very different though between US and Europe is the way people drive (and general road manners), which makes it safer for smaller cars on the highways. Even now driving through Los Angeles can be a hair-raising experience, but I still would trust a lower-powered Fit with better mileage driving on US roads. Just my opinion, but I prefer smaller engines with better fuel-efficiency over hybrids. However, if Honda can produce a hybrid Fit with excellent mileage, more power to them!
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Replying to: hungarian83 (May 08, 2006 7:30 pm) Awww, it can't be worse than my 1989 Hyundai Excel. 63 HP, at least I had a manual transmission. I think the reason they won't bring a smaller engine to market here is because people would not buy it. Speed and power are of the highest priority to many people.
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Replying to: stevedebi (May 09, 2006 8:56 am) The L12A is only available with the 5MT, so it makes better use of the power than the CVT option. |
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Replying to: hungarian83 (May 09, 2006 6:12 am) Amen to that! I remember one time in Portugal, I was riding in a cab on the highway and I saw an ambulance and a motorcyclist driving side by side. The ambulance did NOT have its lights on and was not responding to an emergency, by the by. Anyways, the ambulance 'just decided' that it wanted to be in the lane the motorcycle was in... only problem is that the motorcyclist was already in the spot the ambulance wanted to be in. Didn't matter... ambulance swerved over, no warning, no blinkers, no nothing. The motorcyclist swerved away for dear life, then came back alongside the ambulance and the rider proceeded to start kicking the side of the ambulance from about 1 foot away. At freeway speeds, mind you. Eventually, the guy riding shotgun on the ambulance sticks his head out and starts yelling at the motorcyclist, who proceeds to give him the finger. They start yelling at each other and shaking fists at each other, the motorcyclist kicking the side of the amulance all the while. This goes on for several minutes, with the ambulance eventually doing little 'mini' swerves to get the motorcyclist to back off. One of the funniest (and scariest) things I've seen on the road. Euro drivers are nuts.
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Replying to: johnnyvj (May 09, 2006 12:31 pm) I was honestly talking about it being the other way around. Not to say people in Europe don't sometimes try to do several things while driving, but it seems to be the norm in the US...eating, shaving, talking on the phone, etc, etc. I can't even count how many times I've been pushed out of my lane (or off the road!) in the US by people who don't indicate and aren't capable of driving a motor vehicle. It varies so much from country to country though...certain countries have reputations for being particularly aggressive or crazy in Europe. The countries I have spent the most time driving in Europe (Austria, Germany, Hungary), I find to be safer than the US. They indicate, are more courteous, pay more attention etc. Some people might drive aggressively in Europe, but they also seem a lot more focused on driving. I attribute a lot of it to the manual vs. automatic transmission. Being that this is the Fit Hybrid discussion, I won't continue. |
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I find the number of manual cars in Europe is far higher than North America, and driving a stick requires greater concentration on the road. So fewer multitasking bad habits I guess. It will be interesting at what premium the Fit Hybrid will be. Probably proportionally the same between the Civic EX and Civic Hybrid |
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=115344 The Fit hybrid will be here in 2008. Please Honda, go all out on this: bring a diesel hybrid, a true 70mpg car.
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Replying to: sd_driver (May 13, 2006 10:22 pm) |
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