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#1 of 95 Honda Fit Hybrid
by drl_2
Apr 26, 2006 (6:01 am)
I am considering trading in my '98 Prelude for a Fit but wonder if I should wait for the Fit Hybrid that is rumored to be out next year.
#2 of 95 Re: Honda Fit Hybrid [drl_2]
by reddroverr
Apr 26, 2006 (9:52 am)
I don't think I would hold my breath on that one. We don't even know if the new model standard Fit will make it to the states. Though I think it probably will.
#3 of 95 Re: Honda Fit Hybrid [drl_2]
by johnnyvj
Apr 29, 2006 (1:28 pm)
I don't think the Fit is a good 'fit' for a hybrid, frankly.
Yeah, the mileage would be insane, but the Fit already gets very good mileage, so you wouldn't be saving THAT much money, even with 3 buck gas.
Where hybrids really make sense is on gas-guzzlers, like full-size SUVs. Taking your mileage from say an abysmal 11 mpg on up to a semi-abysmal 15 mpg by going hybrid could save you something like $1000 a year, definitely worth it, assuming that the price delta for the hybrid version is at all reasonable.
But with something like the Fit, going from say 35 mpg to 45+ isn't as special as it seems. You'd save maybe $300 a year, and given that hybrids usually cost AT LEAST $3000-4000 more than equivalently-equipped non-hybrids, you'd spend the entire life of the car making your money back. Not worth it, unless you're a true blue (green?) enviromental type, or just want the carpool lane sticker in the few states that offer one for solo drivers in hybrids.
Yeah, there are tax breaks, but they aren't so great yet.
#4 of 95 Re: Honda Fit Hybrid [johnnyvj]
by stevedebi
May 04, 2006 (3:16 pm)
"But with something like the Fit, going from say 35 mpg to 45+ isn't as special as it seems."
I think they are talking 70+ mpg for a potential hybrid Fit.
#5 of 95 Re: Honda Fit Hybrid [stevedebi]
by johnnyvj
May 04, 2006 (3:24 pm)
"I think they are talking 70+ mpg for a potential hybrid Fit."
That's really unlikely in practice. Hybrids usually improve mileage something on the order of 30-35 percent.
Maybe if it was diesel hybrid it might have a chance at coming somewhere close to that. Also keep in mind that the EPA estimated mpg for hybrids is WAY off compared to real world numbers (sadly).
For example, Priuses in practice get something like 45 mpg in mixed city-hwy driving, nothing near the 60/51 mpg city/hwy they're rated at.
#6 of 95 Re: Honda Fit Hybrid [johnnyvj]
by stevedebi
May 05, 2006 (4:37 pm)
"That's really unlikely in practice."
I didn't advocate the number, just repeating what I read. Unfortunately I can't remember the URL...
#7 of 95 mpg likely not better than Insight
by starlightmica
May 06, 2006 (6:39 pm)
Insight weighs 1850-1975 lbs, manual is EPA rated 60/66, CVT 57/56. 0-60mph in about 11 seconds, but low-end acceleration is helped by the electric motor. If it didn't cost much more than a Sport, say $1500, it would be an interesting proposition. Knock off several hundred for the federal tax break, too.
Here's that URL (they said 50mpg+): http://www.hybridcars.com/honda-fit-hybrid.html
#9 of 95 Re: Fit Hybrid [tifighter]
by gogogodzilla
May 08, 2006 (6:44 am)
That oughtta make hybrid sales take off.
Toyota has the Prius, but Honda looks like it'll have a hybrid success story with the Fit.
Most definitely with the price, $15-17,000 for the hybrid fit...
#10 of 95 Re: Honda Fit Hybrid [johnnyvj]
by cmk
May 08, 2006 (8:08 am)
Taking your mileage from say an abysmal 11 mpg on up to a semi-abysmal 15 mpg by going hybrid could save you something like $1000 a year, definitely worth it, assuming that the price delta for the hybrid version is at all reasonable.
But with something like the Fit, going from say 35 mpg to 45+ isn't as special as it seems. You'd save maybe $300 a year,
My math is failing me. Why would going from 11 to 15 (4 more miles per gallon) be more significant than 35 to 45 (10 more miles per gallon)?