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Toyota Yaris, Hyundai Accent, Car Comparisons, Hatchback
#372 of 443 Re: I still think that Toyota missed the [ttai]
Jul 26, 2007 (5:02 am)
In case you hadn't noticed, Hyundais including the Accent are pretty darn reliable these days. I've owned two Hyundais so I can speak from some experience. They were as reliable as any other car I've owned, including three Toyotas. This isn't 1987, it's 2007 and times have changed.
Is the Yaris immune to problems? Not from what I see in the Yaris discussions. At least when the Accent has a problem, it's covered for a lot longer than the Yaris is.
#373 of 443 Re: I still think that Toyota missed the [backy]
Jul 26, 2007 (8:04 am)
Yes yes. And Joe's ford has never had any trouble and Jenny's Dodge has 200k miles on it, blah blah blah. I like to play the averages. Sorry bud. Why bother with having to have warranty work when you can avoid it all together. There's a reason why Toyota and Honda are kicking butt.
#374 of 443 Re: I still think that Toyota missed the [ttai]
Jul 26, 2007 (9:07 am)
I like to play by averages too. But when the averages are so close in one area, like reliability, and so far apart on other areas that are important like driving position/comfort, controls/displays, handling, braking, price, and warranty (even though you never have to use it, it's a comfort to have it), reliability is not a factor. There is a reason (actually several) CR rated the Yaris so low that it won't recommend it despite its good predicted reliability and excellent fuel economy.
#375 of 443 Re: I still think that Toyota missed the [backy]
Jul 26, 2007 (11:25 am)
Did you actually drive a Yaris or are you relying on CR for all your information. Wasn't it CR that admitted they falsified their test of a certain Suzuki after they were sued. Ed Wallace seems to think CR is a bunch of know nothing hacks. CR recommended the Ford Focus and then I found out what a piece of junk it was. I drove the Honda Fit, which thoroughly trounced the hyundai and heck, I still chose the Yaris. I also do SCCA solo trials and I stil chose the Yaris. You sell Hyundais. Bias? no? So who's zoomin' who?
#376 of 443 Re: I still think that Toyota missed the [ttai]
Jul 26, 2007 (12:04 pm)
I don't know who is zoomin' who, but I don't sell Hyundais. I've owned a couple of them though, driven all the Accent trims and also the Yaris (twice). Which of the current Accent models have you driven? How many Hyundais have you owned? Since you own a Yaris, we know you are definitely biased towards the Yaris. I don't own an Accent.
Since CR doesn't like the Yaris (but does like just about every other Toyota model very much), they are "know nothing hacks." I suppose Edmunds.com, which also prefers the Accent over the Yaris, is a bunch of know nothing hacks too. Since you chose a car that was thoroughly trounced by the Fit, it's clear you buy the car that you feel meets your needs and not what the professional automotive press says is best. That's fine. Just as it's fine if some people don't think that getting a few more mpg and a little better predicted reliability are sufficient reasons to choose a car.
#377 of 443 Re: I still think that Toyota missed the [backy]
Jul 26, 2007 (12:22 pm)
My point exactly. So I guess calling someone who bought a Toyota a sucker is pretty dumb, huh. So comparing your Accent to a Yaris and arguing about it is pointless too. Finally Backy, you get it. Now I'm back to driving my lovely Yaris. See Ya.
#378 of 443 Re: I still think that Toyota missed the [ttai]
Jul 26, 2007 (12:48 pm)
Who is calling whom a sucker? And I'll say it again, I don't own an Accent.
There must be a lot of pointless people around CarSpace then, since there's lots of comparison discussions here. I guess at least some people find they are a good way to get different opinions on cars they may be considering buying.
Have fun driving your lovely Yaris!
#379 of 443 Re: I still think that Toyota missed the [ttai]
Jul 26, 2007 (12:58 pm)
What point is that? Re-read Backy's post. He never said anything about consumers buying Toyotas are suckers. Actually, on the contrary, I would say.
I have had a good amount of time in both the Yaris and the Accent, and would agree with Backy's assessment. I don't own either but the Accent, specifically, the SE trim, would be the one had I become an owner of one of these small cars.
Have you driven the Accent, by the way?
Enjoy your Yaris.
#380 of 443 Another point is that the Yaris'
Jul 26, 2007 (2:47 pm)
gas mileage advantage of 35-37mpg over the Rio5's 32-35 is not a big enough reason to overlook the Rio sedan or Kia Rio5 hatch. With the Kia Warranty advantage and preferable Kia or Hyundai body styling my pick is the Kia then the Hyundai. Toyota and Scion are below them somewhere but probably not going to be chosen by this padre.
I'd include Mitsubishi but they are not producing rigs in this class at this time.
#381 of 443 Re: Another point is that the Yaris' [iluvmysephia1]
Jul 26, 2007 (3:42 pm)
Using the 2008 EPA numbers, the difference is about 10%--31 AT, 32 MT for the Yaris, and 28 AT, 29 MT for the Accent for combined fuel economy--about $140 a year more per 10k miles with $4/gallon gas. Since I don't drive even 10k a year, that's not a biggie to me, less than $10 a month at current prices. But if someone drove a lot more miles...