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Mazda3 vs Honda Accord

99 messages,  Last post on Jan 24, 2008 at 12:01 AM

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What is this discussion about? Honda Accord, Mazda MAZDA3, Car Buying, Sedan


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#30 of 99
Re: strange comparison [thegraduate] by tallman1
Jan 24, 2007 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 24, 2007 12:04 pm)

I've never run into any of that kind of arrogance here in the Pacific NW either.... and I've been to many Honda dealers over the years.
#31 of 99
Re: strange comparison [tallman1] by bigfur
Jan 24, 2007 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jan 24, 2007 2:08 pm)

Lived in south florida for a year also...most of the sales persons there were the same way. Acted like they were annoyed that i wanted to test drive something, not just sign the paperwork on it. Met one very good Honda salesman up here once, went back a week later and he was no longer with the company. I found that to be funny.
#32 of 99
- by dudleyr
Jan 26, 2007 (8:30 am)
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Very interesting. I am looking at an Accord 4-cyl 5-speed. Was comparing it to Camry, but they don't make any stick shift Camry's with the VSC and that was the only real advantage the Camry had over the Accord. Now I am trying to decide between the slightly larger, smoother, and more efficient Accord vs the smaller, better handling VSC equiped Mazda 3.
 
I really like the hatch on the 3 - wish Honda still made one (the Fit is too small).
 
If the Mazda 3 hatch had the 2.0 liter engine that gets better mpg than the Accord I would be all over it.
 
Tough to compare safety because there are so many factors. VSC could prevent an accident, but the Accord has better protection if you are in an accident.
 
The strange thing to me is that nobody make the car I want (out of the millions sold every year). My perfect vehicle would be an efficient 4-cyl station wagon with good handling and a stick shift.
 
A Corolla wagon that handles like a Mazda 3 would be about perfect. SUV like utility and hybrid like economy, with sporty handling. I find it hard to believe that nobody else wants something like this, and it is not being made - except in Europe where they are everywhere.
 
I absolutely drool over the Acoord wagon with a 50 mpg (highway) diesel engine.
#33 of 99
Re: - [dudleyr] by d_hyper
Jan 26, 2007 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 26, 2007 8:30 am)

There are still manual Focus wagons left for sale. New US Focus will drop wagon & hatchback.
#34 of 99
- by dudleyr
Jan 26, 2007 (1:47 pm)
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The Focus comes pretty close, but it is not very efficient (I know it recently got better mpg for the '07 year) and it seems crude inside. Specifically the seats were way too soft, and there were no rear headrests at all. Love the size of it though and it does handle well. If it got Mazda3 2.0l mpg and had a Mazda3 (or Accord) interior it would be great - assuming the reliability is there. I was still very tempted.
 
CR got 42 mpg hwy for the stick shift 2.0 Mazda3 and 35 mpg hwy for the stick shift Focus 2.0. Quite a big difference especially since the EPA numbers are about the same and the engines should be very similar.
 
Wish Ford treated the Focus like a real car and not a throw away. It deserves better - needs to be updated to the new chassis.
#35 of 99
Re: - [dudleyr] by d_hyper
Jan 26, 2007 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 26, 2007 1:47 pm)

I agree, but for the price difference, you can sacrifice some mileage, I'd imagine.
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- by dudleyr
Jan 26, 2007 (4:49 pm)
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If the rest was up to snuff, the mileage would be less of a problem.
 
The other problem is that the mileage is not only about money. I have a thing about inefficiency, the whole greenhouse gas issue, and depending on foreign oil does not help either.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by neteng101
Jan 26, 2007 (9:22 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 26, 2007 8:30 am)

My perfect vehicle would be an efficient 4-cyl station wagon with good handling and a stick shift.
 
The WRX comes to my mind as a possibility for you?
#38 of 99
- by dudleyr
Jan 27, 2007 (2:50 pm)
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The WRX would be close if it used about half as much fuel. As it is, it uses more fuel than my minivan, so not too much point as a second more efficient vehicle.
 
The Matrix would be close if it handled better and had a telescoping wheel (the wheel is so far away).
#39 of 99
Re: strange comparison [thegraduate] by yankeesuc4
Feb 19, 2007 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 22, 2007 6:56 pm)

i realize that this is somewhat off topic, but my father is interested in the mazda 3, and was wondering whether or not purchasing a new mazda would be more advantageous than purchasing a used volvo or acura (2005 or 6)
 
thanks

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