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Honda Fit, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback
#2460 of 2554 ONLY good thing about Honda Fit was Gas Mileage
Jul 03, 2010 (7:42 pm)
I purchased a 2010 Fit base model after having been assured by dealer that no performance or handling upgrades were available on either Sport or base and that the only difference is in the cosmetics. I found out the same day that was not strictly true. The handling was really horrible as was the performance. I had expected poor performance, but all the test reports I had seen thought the handling was great!
Bottom line was it took me about three weeks to find a buyer even for $3000 less than I paid, but during that time I averaged 33 mpg on regular gas. However, considering the awful handling and braking, even if it had got 100 mpg I would still have wanted out .
Moral is that saving money sometimes costs. The other lesson I learned was never to buy a Honda anything ever again.
#2461 of 2554 Re: ONLY good thing about Honda Fit was Gas Mileage [wordsworth]
Jul 03, 2010 (8:41 pm)
>"The handling was really horrible as was the performance. I had expected poor performance, but all the test reports I had seen thought the handling was great!"
All those test reports are wrong?. WOW!
Didn't you drive it before the purchase?
What did you replace the Fit with?
#2462 of 2554 Re: ONLY good thing about Honda Fit was Gas Mileage [kipk]
Jul 04, 2010 (4:32 am)
Almost none of the usual enthusiast sources bothered to test the base Fit. The larger wheels and low profile tires on the Sport make a big difference, as does the rear stabilizer bar.
The Honda literature and website clearly indicate the differences, and you took the word of a salesperson rather than check for yourself? And I'm with Kip--why not test drive first, then buy?
Sorry, man, but it sounds like you made an uninformed and very expensive decision. Better luck next time.
#2463 of 2554 Honda Fit 2009 MPG
Jul 18, 2010 (3:09 pm)
Bought a used 2009 Honda Fit Sport. In ten tanks of gas, average MPG is 37.92. Car is driven easily by my wife. We use the average MPG gauge to help max out mileage. Hope this helps.
#2464 of 2554 Honda Fit 2009 MPG
Jul 18, 2010 (3:12 pm)
Bought a used 2009 Honda Fit Sport. In ten tanks of gas, average MPG is 37.92 actual milege, not the trip computer average - as this is 10% off. Car is driven easily by my wife. We use the average MPG gauge to help max out mileage. Auto, Fit Sport, with A/C on, nitrogen in tires (no help)
#2465 of 2554 Re: Honda Fit 2009 MPG [wtmkz]
Jul 18, 2010 (4:59 pm)
Nitrogen in Tire is a scam anyway. Our breathing air consists of >78% nitrogen ~18% oxygen and the rest are misc 'pollutants'. If the 'tire-air' is dry and free of oil, it will be just as good as garbage n2... If you really want to save gas, turn off the A/C. Your tire has a max PSI rating. Inflate it to 3 or 4 PSI below that number. The PSI call-out in your door jamb is a compromise from the manufacturer to get a smoother ride, That is why they are calling for ~32 PSI in most cases... I run my Element and CR-V at ~38 to 40 PSI improving the mpg by about 3.
#2466 of 2554 Re: Honda Fit 2009 MPG [cwalti]
Jul 19, 2010 (4:18 am)
I agree about the Nitrogen being an extra charge scam. Its claim to fame is supposed to be that the tire pressure will not fluxuate as much when the temperature changes. While it may help some, both our 09 RAV4 and 09 Ridgeline's nitrogen filled tires turned on their tire low pressure lights when the temps got down around freezing last winter. And I didn't have any Nitrogen available to add to them. So they got air!
There are two camps when talking about air pressure. Both will aggressively defend their stand.
I personally believe that inflating a tire to near the maximum on the sidewall results in the center of the tread bubbling out and bearing more of the weight of the car than the outer edges. Therefore wearing quicker in the middle. Also because less tread is on the road, the tire is less safe in wet weather and emergency maneuvers.
The tire will also ride rougher because it doesn't flex as easily. Over inflation can result in a bit better fuel mileage because less tread on the road results in less friction.
The tire pressure on the door jam reflect the tire being able to run with all the tread on the road equally across the tire. This has to do with the weight of the car and the sidewall construction. The car will ride better and handle better in emergency situations and likely last longer.
Makes sense to me that with EPA mileage ratings being so important these days, that the manufacturers would use tires inflated to the highest "Safe" pressure possible to obtain the best mileage possible.
The best way to find the absolute best pressure to meet safety and mileage considerations is to put a chalk mark across the tread and drive the car a mile or so on a straight smooth surfaced road without turning the steering wheel any more than necessary. When the pressure is correct for the car and the tire design the chalk will wear evenly across the tread.
Excessive pressure will result in the chalk in the middle wearing before the chalk on the edges. Too little pressure will result in the edges wearing off before the center.
With that said, if the vehicle becomes heavier due to load, towing, and so forth the tires will flatten more and need a bit more pressure.
Different strokes for different folks.
#2467 of 2554 Re: Honda Fit 2009 MPG [kipk]
Jul 19, 2010 (4:58 am)
I think the center-buldging is more a problem for the old bias-ply tires that the modern multi layer steel belts. These should hold contour pretty steady across a 'wide' pressure range...
#2468 of 2554 Re: Honda Fit 2009 MPG [cwalti]
Jul 19, 2010 (5:08 am)
You may be right. The best way to be sure would be to do the chalk thing.
Like I said, both camps will defend their beliefs.
#2469 of 2554 Re: My MPG before and after Idle Learn [manlok]
Jul 24, 2010 (8:10 am)
I'm doing a similar mpg test after I had the idle learn procedure performed by a local Honda dealer on my newly purchased 2006 CRV automatic. The best mpg I got was over 31, but this was on a relatively flat very good FWY a cruise control speed of 70 mph for 351 miles. The outside temp was fairly consistent 97 degrees F. More data to follow.