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Lemon Law may apply here. by kipk
Jul 11, 2009 (2:01 am)
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There just "Seems" to be something wrong with this picture.
 
Can't imagine how the mileage could be so bad and not be getting error codes.
 
First thing I would do is the Idle learn procedure (ILP). You can find that on page 11 of the Pilot "Real World Mpg" forum. Do it EXACTLY as it is written. No short cuts.
 
If that doesn't help, you need to become a Fixture at your dealer. Top off the tank and have a technician drive the car for a hundred miles or so and check the mileage, with you in the car. Another thing, would be to drive one of their demo Fits for a hundred miles and see what kind of mileage you get.
 
With legitimate mileage that bad, possibly the states "Lemon Law" would help. The car is not as "Green" as it is supposed to be, therefore not meeting EPA standards.
 
Kip
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Re: never breaking 18 mpg in my 08 Fit! - very depressed and at wits end [stephen987] by backy
Jul 11, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jul 10, 2009 7:17 pm)

I think you are on to something there.
 
You can actually do a test yourself: find a level stretch of highway without much traffic (might be hard to do in the Bay Area, may have to travel a bit to find that). Top off the tank at a gas station that is as close as possible to an entrance to the highway. Fill the tank until the pump shuts off, and STOP. Clear out the trip odometer. Then drive as far as you can in one direction on this level highway, with the cruise set at a moderate speed--either around 55-60 mph or whatever the speed limit of the highway is (if no cruise, try to maintain a set speed with light pressure on the pedal). (As was mentioned, be sure the transmission is in the highest gear.) Then turn around and do the same thing in the opposite direction until you return to the same gas station you used before. Fill the tank at the same gas pump you used the first time, until the pump shuts off. And calculate your fuel economy for the trip (the longer the trip, the better). The mpg should be close to the EPA highway estimate for the car, at least. If the speed was around 55-60, I'd say the mpg should exceed the EPA number. If not, if instead it's closer to 18 mpg, then I'd say the car really does have some kind of problem.
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Re: never breaking 18 mpg in my 08 Fit! - very depressed and at wits end [bilbofett] by thurst1963
Jul 11, 2009 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: bilbofett (Jul 10, 2009 7:09 pm)

Hello I had the same thing going on with my 2008 sport auto tran fit look back at post from the first half of 2008 18 mpg all the time no cheap gas after i got around 7000 mile mpg went up i think 21-23 around 8500 mile went up around 25mpg 10000 mile 27-29 i have 15500 mile now I get 35-40 PS I drive 90% highway and have got all the way up to 48 mpg really watching on long highway trip
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Re: never breaking 18 mpg in my 08 Fit! - very depressed and at wits end [bilbofett] by xcentrick
Jul 11, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: bilbofett (Jul 10, 2009 7:09 pm)

I have an '07 FIT Sport that got low MPG (~27) for the 1st 30K miles. Then, it seemed at exactly 30K miles, the MPG went to 33 and has stayed there. I now have 70K miles on it, no problems except had to change brakes and rotors at 30K miles. The rotors were not scored, just worn past the legal width for tuning.
 
Only thing I can offer is try the ILT mentioned in other posts.
 
The thing that really puzzles me about all the FITs is the wide range of MPG reported, from 15 to 44. That just doesn't make sense to me even with all the different factors that play into MPG.
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Re: never breaking 18 mpg in my 08 Fit! - very depressed and at wits end [xcentrick] by madams1
Jul 11, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: xcentrick (Jul 11, 2009 10:21 am)

18 mpg sounds awfully low. My wife initially got 28 average on her 2008 automatic sport and now she averages about 30 with about 50-50 city and highway miles. Also, this mileage includes using gas with ethonal which is about all that you can find around here.
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The MPG gauge and the real world by jarew
Jul 22, 2009 (8:47 am)
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48.4 mpg for my first tank of gas using on board gauge Wow or what gives?
Actual from mileage to gallons used was 37.5 mpg which is still a WOW.
Base model five speed manual 80/20 highway/city.
love my new fit.
 
JAREW
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Re: The MPG gauge and the real world [jarew] by stephen987
Jul 22, 2009 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: jarew (Jul 22, 2009 8:47 am)

Nice mileage. But what's not so nice is the 25-30% error in the gauge.
 
I got an indicated 42.4 during a rather "aggressive" test drive session a couple of weeks ago. Even if that translates only to a real-world 34 mpg, it's still better than my Civic gets when driven comparably.
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Re: The MPG gauge and the real world [stephen987] by roxy11
Jul 24, 2009 (2:34 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jul 22, 2009 11:11 am)

those disparities between the computer and the actual mileage are outrageous. i seen people brag about 42 mpg, but they never wonder why they are using 10 gallons of gas to fill up after a 350 mile tank. on my 09 corolla, if the dispay shows 43.4 mpg, then i consistently know that my real calculated mileage will be over 41.4 mpg. (it is always less than 2 mpg off).
 
i have to think honda could remedy this, but too many drivers not in the know would have to face the reality that the mileage of the fit isnt as rosy as they think.
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Re: The MPG gauge and the real world [stephen987] by gatortom1
Jul 24, 2009 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jul 22, 2009 11:11 am)

I'm really surprised at THAT much disparity between real mileage and computer monitor mileage. With over 90% of the posts here the difference is 10 to 12 pecent. I have kept careful records since I bought my 2009 base Fit automatic in Sept. 2008. 5040 miles with 141 gallons. (35.7 actual mpg with roughly 60% suburban/40% highway.) On each fill-up I record CPU mileage and compute real mileage. That percent difference has varied from around 9% to around 12% with a few outliers both below and above that. The difference also appears about the same whether it is a highway tank at 42 actual mpg, or a surban tank at 32 to 35 mpg. I still hit pretty close by subtracting 10% from whatever the CPU says.
 
Some of the disparity across reporters may be CPU versus real mileage--although I also noted before that I actually got 47.5 mpg over 280 miles on an interstate tank that involved a lot of drafting behind 18-wheelers doing 65 mile per hour.
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On board trip computer should be adjustable. by kipk
Jul 24, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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A "Scan Gauge"can be corrected for errors. It takes a couple of tanks to get it "Tuned" to the car. When doing a fillup it will say how many gallons it thinks were used. The driver can input the correct amount according to the gas pump.
 
It will also say how many miles were driven. The driver can can calibrate the Scan Gauge to the car's odometer by adjusting the indicated speed. For example the car is driven 100 miles according to the odometer. But the scan gauge says the car traveled 98 miles. That is a 2% difference and the gauge can be adjusted to reflect "+2" . Then the next time the car is driven a given distance, the gauge will agree with the odometer. Or pretty close as it also measures the fuel used when in reverse.
 
Problem is, that odometers are not the most accurate of devices. So we really don't know if the odometer is more accurate, or the gauge. If we don't believe that, Next time on an X-way, reset the tripometer at a given mile marker. Drive a hundred miles and see how far off the odometer really is. Another, and even more accurate way, is to set a GPS for trip. It will tell us how far we have traveled as well as how fast we are going. That can be compared to the odometer and other devices.
 
The differences folks are seeing may actually be the cars odometer, the cars trip computer or a combination of the two.
 
The key for super accurate results, the fill ups must be done exactly the same way every time. Same nozzle setting, same pump, same car position, etc..And know how accurate the measuring devices actually are.
 
Kip

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