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Honda Fit, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback
#2111 of 2554 Re: 2008 Base Fit A/T with 1429 miles [watsac]
Aug 04, 2008 (1:32 pm)
The first 1051 miles were all CITY and I averaged 23.7 MPG.
The next 378 miles were all HIGHWAY and I averaged 28.1 MPG.
So I guess technically, I do fall within the EPA estimates of 27 city (range 22-32) and 34 highway (range 28-40) but I am clearly on the low end of those ranges.
Ok now let's compare your figures to my 2008 Honda Civic Si. This has like a 197hp engine and a 6spd manual in it. I drive it normally and no Hypermiling techniques.
The first real fill up after the dealers gas ran out it got 25mpg combined, that was in the winter with winter gas and before the break in was over. Since the break in period I consistently get 28-31mpg combined and that is with the crappy mandatory 10% ethanol gas we have in this State. I just drive normally. My friend drove normally with his Jazz/Fit and he got the same lousy mpg that you do, almost exactly the same.
The Fit is a very useful little car but if you get one that gets poor economy nothing will make it improve. I know this because my friend traded cars with the General manager of the dealership who also had the exact same model and he was at like 34mpg in the same city driving the same way he always does. That's a big bump from 10.5km/l!
He sold it and I think i would have too. My Civic Si - high performance sedan gets better mpg than a Fit and it has 90hp more!
#2112 of 2554 Making Lemons Out of Lemonade
Aug 05, 2008 (9:29 am)
I bought my 08 Sport AT (3,100 miles on it now) for (1) better mileage than my Toyota Tacoma, (2) an in-town run around capable of handling lots of inside packages/bags/stuff hauling, and (3) the fun of a small, whip around car. I expected better mpg than I am getting - but I should have looked into the MPG game a lot further than I did before buying (my fault, nobody else to blame). But the Fit passes on all points noted above - I just had higher expectations.
After I noticed my lower than expected MPG I went on this forum for advice. Here is what I did (1) thanks to Kipp, I reset my ILP which reduced the idle from 1200-1300 rpm to somewhere around 850, (2) I check my tire pressure once a week and keep it at 33PSI, (3) I changed my driving habits of over 50 years by (a) keeping rpms below 3000 at all times and trying to keep between 1500 and 2500 as much as possible - don't know how some of you go from a side street to a busy thoroughfare without getting over 3000 or getting killed, (b) do a lot of coasting to the stoplight or stop sign and avoid using the brakes as much as possible. I also go the same gas station and use the same pump using the slow fill position but also using a "second click" as the stop point. I don't "push" my Fit out of the garage or go 55 in a traffic pattern where every lane is moving at 65.
My results? I went from 24mpg to around 30 mpg. That's a 25% increase for mainly (85%) in town or rural driving. Good increase? Yes! Equal to this forum's posts of 35 and over MPG right off the show room floor without any special driving techniques? NO! My guess? With such a small engine any minor engine manufacturing variation is probably within quality control standards but significant enough to have a real impact on mpg.
So...I can enjoy the lemonade of having a car that meets all my initial specifications or I can suck on lemons because the MPG puts me - as I stated in my original post #1929 "Looks Like I Am in the Unlucky Half" - in the second half of Fit owners.
My wife and I love the Fit and it is teaching us how we must adjust our driving habits in a changing world.
Aug 05, 2008 (10:40 am)
after reading posts like the above, i've got to admit i'm worried.
just took delivery yesterday of an 08 Fit.
i guess i was hoping to be averaging in the mid-30s for MPG.
what is "hypermiling" ?
#2115 of 2554 Better MPG with AT?
Aug 05, 2008 (10:51 am)
So far what I've been reading in the posts is that the MT and AT Fits get about the same MPG due to the fact that the AT Fit will run at a lower RPM at any given speed. (All taken from the posts) My question is, theoretically shouldn't an AT Fit Sport get better MPG than a MT Fit since RPMs are lower and you can also "shift" at different RPMs with the paddle shifters? Just throwing this out there... Also, if this question has been asked previously I'm sorry. I haven't gotten around to reading all 2114 posts.
Aug 05, 2008 (11:56 am)
say it again. I do 80 mph on the freeway at a constant 2900 rmps, and I still get 35-36 MPG.
#2117 of 2554 Re: Better MPG with AT? [meandg143]
Aug 05, 2008 (12:24 pm)
I have a 08 Sport AT. 1st 5000k I was avg 27mpg in the city. I try to coast when I can, keep the revs low when I can and occasionally cut the engine off during long stops. Othertimes I rev well past 4000k because I need the speed. last 850 mi I have avg a little over 30mpg city. Same driving habits. The only thing that has changed is now I have almost 6K on the odo and I have increased my tire pressure to 37 psi. Don't really know if its the break-in period, tire psi or a combination. But my last tank at 85% city driving was 31.4 mpg. On pure hwy I have always avg 38+ mpg.
#2118 of 2554 Re: said it before, [fitman548]
Aug 05, 2008 (12:36 pm)
MT or AT?
#2119 of 2554 Re: said it before, [fitman548]
Aug 05, 2008 (2:22 pm)
then why do i have that at 63 mph in my new MT fit ?
#2120 of 2554 Re: Making Lemons Out of Lemonade [boord1]
Aug 05, 2008 (4:08 pm)
boord1 / kipp - many thanks for the ILP (Idle Learning Procedure) reset tip. Just finished the process and filled up the tank so I'll keep you posted on my MPG changes. I'm hoping for improvements because, like boord1, my idle was at 1300 rpm before the reset and it is now around 850 rpm. For the record, I followed the following ILP reset steps:
1. With a cold engine, turn off all accessories and disconnect the battery for a few minutes.
2. Reconnect the battery.
3. Without touching the throttle or turning on any accessories (including dome light and radar detectors), start the engine and let it idle. Watch the radiator cooling fans. After a while, they will come on for a short period and shut off. Keep watching. Eventually they will come on and shut off a second time.
4. Turn off the engine; the ILP reset process is complete.
Now, you will have to reset the radio and possibly the drivers "AUTO" window.
- Turn on the ignition (or start the engine) to activate the accessories.
- Turn on the radio. Enter the radio code. The previously preset radio stations will return.
- Check the drivers "AUTO" window feature. If the "AUTO" feature stopped working, re-activate the feature by pushing and holding down window switch until the window goes all the way down (open). Then pull and hold up the window switch making sure the window goes all the way up (closed). Then hold the switch up for 2 more seconds.