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Re: Nobody in America is so cheap they deserve less [damian1962] by tiff_c
Jul 27, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: damian1962 (Jul 27, 2008 6:26 am)

I can't accept the fact the new Fit does not include all the features the Japan Fit does. Nobody in America is so cheap they deserve less a car. And nobody in America is so cheap they wouldn't pay a couple gran more for all the goodies. America deserves the same quality not less. And since this site is about MPG www.fueleconomy.gov nails the real facts on that too... and it's 300 miles per tank and 31 mpg combined. with no more than 34 highway. And these are the real numbers.
 
Actually the Japanese Fit has a LOT more features than the American version. The JDM is different because Japan is mostly city and some rural when you really get outside the city. Small cars are very popular there. In the US large cars and SUV's and Trucks are the norm.
The Fit also costs less in Japan than the US when you convert Yen to dollars.
This is a decision by Honda and it's so they don't compete with the Civic a car that sells in very small numbers in Japan.
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Fit with everthing vs Civic. by damian1962
Jul 27, 2008 (7:37 am)
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I don't buy the argument that the Civic would be affected in sales if the Fit came fully loaded. People who like the civic wont buy the Fit, and Fit Lovers would be on cloud 9 and would fork up the extra cash.
 
I like the Mazda 5 better, it suits my needs better. And for the Texan person who says move to Japan. I like the 30 plus beaches with crysal water down here. I love the resorts and Old San Juan to much. I am 365 days a tourist in the summer. You can't say that... can ya.. and just in case you also want to cheap shot me with the hurricains, houses down here are concrete not carton like in Texas where tornados wipe out entire communities. Stick to the subject the Fit should be better in everyway and it should give better mpg's. And yeah you would get more mpg in texas when the tornado winds help ya...Fit=
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Re: Fit MPG Variances [tiff_c] by bobw3
Jul 27, 2008 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jul 27, 2008 6:09 am)

So why can't these small cars get better fuel economy. Saying they don't, isn't an answer
 
Just because you say they should isn't a reason either. And just because older civic hatchbacks and geo metros would get 40mpg for some people isn't a reason either. Those cars were smaller, lighter, polluted more, were less safe, less stable, had poorer braking, etc...so of course they got better mpg then modern cars. Plus what speed where you driving them to get over 40mpg?
 
My Fit gets in the mid 30's MPG average and high 30s mpg on the highway and is safe, spacious, and handles great. Yes, I possibly could get better MPG in a corolla, civic or yaris (unless you're one of those only getting in the mid 20's MPG average for those cars...just read the other forums or fuelseconomy.gov), but then I'd drive the car less often because those cars aren't as practical as the Fit, in that with the Fit I can hold four people plus a lot of stuff behind the 2nd row and even stuff under the 2nd row. I couldn't carry that much stuff with 4 passengers in the Civic, Corolla or Yaris, so I'd end up having to drive our big vehicle.
 
But if you're just looking at MPG, then go find a 15yr old geo metro and have fun!
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Re: Nobody in America is so cheap they deserve less [tiff_c] by bobw3
Jul 27, 2008 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jul 27, 2008 6:55 am)

Go to just about any country outside of the USA and people drive smaller and more practical cars. Why don't people buy Civics in Japan...because they're not stupid enough to do so when the Fit is nearly just as spacious inside, and has more cargo space. The same answer throughout all of Europe, where a Focus is considered a full size car. They don't drive SUVs, big minivans, etc, so when they buy a vehicle, they want it to be practical, but that doesn't mean they don't want all of the luxury features that are available.
 
In America, we want big vehicles and if a small vehicle like a Civic is going to cost the same as an Accord, then a typical American will buy the Accord just because it's bigger, so there's no point in a manufacturer putting so many options on a small car that the price will overlap their bigger model because Americans won't buy them.
 
So for the few of us that like small, practical cars, we're at the mercy of limited choices because of the overwhelming stupid (in my opinion) choices of the average American consumer when it comes to car purchases.
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Honda mpg by wiseone2
Jul 27, 2008 (8:20 am)
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The Fit appears to be a good car, but the posts for mpg, seem to show this isn't
Hondas best effort. In 1996, I bought a well cared for '90 Civic CRX HF with 70000 miles on it. Gas was cheap and not a big deal at all. After a few months, I noticed, I rarely ever needed to put gas in it. So I checked my mileage for the first time, 53 mpg. I had no idea. Manual trans, no a/c, no pwr windows, small tires.
Why can't Honda do this today??
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Re: AC in Arizona [thegraduate] by jkandell
Jul 27, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 24, 2008 9:43 am)

I've heard that recirculating a/c is cooler and that does make sense (since the air is already cool); but for some reason the a/c air seems colder when set on Outside air, even though the fan isn't blowing as much air out. I live in Arizona and a/c use seriously affects my mpg; I've made an art of shutting it on and off as a drive: on for coasting, off every time else. At the height of summer it gets so hot I alternate between "1" (instead of off) and "3".
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Re: Honda mpg [wiseone2] by bobw3
Jul 27, 2008 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: wiseone2 (Jul 27, 2008 8:20 am)

Manual trans, no a/c, no pwr windows, small tires.
Why can't Honda do this today??

 
Nobody would buy it without an automatic transmission, power windows, 8 airbags, anitlock brakes, a more swacious interior, etc... Plus I think when people remember the MPG from 10 - 20 years ago, I don't think they were very scientific with their calculation because gas was so cheap. Plus they might not have been driving 70-80mph, but only around 60, and the Fit can get 40mpg easily if only driving at 60mph.
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Re: AC in Arizona [jkandell] by bobw3
Jul 27, 2008 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: jkandell (Jul 27, 2008 8:41 am)

but for some reason the a/c air seems colder when set on Outside air, even though the fan isn't blowing as much air out.
 
I'm not sure what you mean. When set to Outside air vs Inside air and the fan speed is set to 1, you'll get a greater airflow when set to Outside air because the outside vent is open, so the moving car is creating the greater air movement, as well as the fan. Maybe that's why you feel cooler...because the air is moving faster.
 
I think the problem is that you keep shutting of the AC and then turning it on, so you now have to re-cool the car again. It might be better just to leave the setting to fan speed 2 and on recirculate and just leave it alone to keep the temp in the car more constant. Once the AC is turned off, any car will heat up really quick. Have you tinted your windows?
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Re: Nobody in America is so cheap they deserve less [bobw3] by retire36
Jul 27, 2008 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jul 27, 2008 8:16 am)

We have a Fit and a Tahoe. You would probably consider it stupid to have a Tahoe. We use it to pull a ski boat and haul our family of 4, a Great Dane and usually one of the girls friends to our place on the Delta on weekends during the summer. Try that with a Fit or a Corolla.
 
Our girls are going off to college, one this year and one next year. These activities have kept our girls busy and the family close for several years.
 
We love the Fit and drive it 2-3 times as much as the Tahoe.
 
We don't think buying the Tahoe was a stupid Americana's decision.
 
Dave
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Re: Honda mpg [wiseone2] by tiff_c
Jul 27, 2008 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: wiseone2 (Jul 27, 2008 8:20 am)

The Fit appears to be a good car, but the posts for mpg, seem to show this isn't
Hondas best effort. In 1996, I bought a well cared for '90 Civic CRX HF with 70000 miles on it. Gas was cheap and not a big deal at all. After a few months, I noticed, I rarely ever needed to put gas in it. So I checked my mileage for the first time, 53 mpg. I had no idea. Manual trans, no a/c, no pwr windows, small tires.
Why can't Honda do this today??

 
According to bobw, it's because older cars are not very good. I've owned older cars and they were very good in economy. I guess the price we pay is measured in fuel economy. Safety or fuel economy and our Gov't picked safety. Overseas cars must be horrifically unsafe to get such great fuel economy, probably fold like tissue paper in a collision with a strong wind. At least that's the attitude many people seem to have.
Honda Can do it today, but they don't, neither does anyone else. Just the Prius. I did better in my old Geo Metro. I drove about 70mph at that time and putting the A/C on was like an air brake. You felt like the car hit an unseen wall. still I had a Civic DX Hatch and it was always in the 40mpg range with no babying just driving it.
The Fit is underpowered, needs a bit more HP maybe 20hp more and it would be fine.

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