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Re: Check Odometer for Accurate MPG [andysd] by thegraduate
Jul 05, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: andysd (Jul 05, 2008 8:16 am)

Good to know. Now I have a warranty that extends to 37,800 bumper to bumper and powertrain that goes to 63,000, I presume. I have a 2006 Accord purchased in Nov. 2005. I'm very close to 36,000 miles now, so I don't have to worry with it expiring just yet.
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Why can't the Fit get even better mileage? by 204meca
Jul 07, 2008 (10:43 pm)
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I have been infatuated with the Fit since I 1st saw one in Panama in 2005. I admit that I am a Fit forums voyager, Truth be told,I love Hondas & have owned about 10 Civics since my 1st 85 wagon. I want an excuse to get a Fit
 
Here is my hang up. Overall I get the impression that most people who consciencious drive to get good mileage (not necessarily hypermiler fanatics) appear to get 33-36 highway mpg - that is pretty dang good mileage. Some occasionally break 40 mpg. But I can't understand why the Fit with its 109 HP engine & all the goodness of Honda engineering can't do 40+ mpg consistently on the highway with occasional runs of 45+.
 
My 92 Civic Si consistently got 30-35 in the city & 40+ on the highway. Same with 2 Del Sol Sis - the manual DS got consistently topped 40 on the highway & AT DS got 43-45. Both rarely dropped below 30 in city/suburban driving. All the Sis had 125 HP & pretty good scoot! My 92 HP VX consistently topped 50 mpg highway.. Admittedly the VX was a very light, bare bones car, specialized fuel mizer. But then doesn't that also describe the Fit (althought the definition of "bare bones" has changed in the last 15 years). Even my wife's Audi A4 1.8T CVT consistently gets 33-36 highway. Compared to the Fit the Audi is huge & vastly more comfortable.
 
So what is it about the Fit & the current crop of fuel misers that they don't seem to be able to consistently break the 40+ mpg barrier? Can't Honda do better with the most fuel efficient car it sells in the US?
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Re: Why can't the Fit get even better mileage? [204meca] by kipk
Jul 08, 2008 (3:36 am)
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Replying to: 204meca (Jul 07, 2008 10:43 pm)

Good Post and good question.
 
I'm thinking the Fit was designed to be more of a Town Runabout. The engine is quite small and the shape of the car may not be as aerodynamic as it could be, due to it's "utility" nature. Therefore, running at 70+ mph may place quite a strain on it's drive train.
 
Living on both this and the Civic forum have shown me that the Civic, with it's larger and more powerful engine seems to consistently exceed the Fit in real world mileage on the highway.
 
The Toyota forums also indicate that the Corolla equals or betters the Scion/Yaris models on the road.
 
Late model cars are strapped with stricter EPA requirements than the older ones were. In the early 80s I had a Dodge Colt hatch back that consistently exceeded 40 MPG and it had a carburetor. No fuel injection, no computer.
 
Also a Civic wagon with a 3 speed automatic and carburetor that delivered 32 mpg in most any type of driving.
 
However, I also had an early model MT Ford Pinto that would consistently deliver 21-23 mpg on the highway at 70 mph. That is not a Type-o. 21-23 on the road! What a POS that was.
 
Kip
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Re: Why can't the Fit get even better mileage? [204meca] by marytrary5
Jul 08, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: 204meca (Jul 07, 2008 10:43 pm)

I also think the increasing government and public demands for safety features have significantly changed cars even over the last 5 years. Some of those changes make demands on design changes as well as weight, and since fuel economy was not high on public demand, there is not much motivation for automakers to "do it all". I agree with poster above, as well, that the Fit was designed to be an about-town car, that could haul people & all their gear (and a llama, apparently). I personally only see the highway a few times a year, so I don't give a hoot about the highway mileage, and the "split" between city & hwy MPG is only 7mpg vs. 10-12mpg like many sedans.
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Re: Why can't the Fit get even better mileage? [marytrary5] by tfuisz
Jul 08, 2008 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: marytrary5 (Jul 08, 2008 5:45 am)

After owning our Fit sport AT now for about 12 months, with 5K on the odometer, the last fill up gave just under 20 mpg for all city mileage. We love the car, but the mileage is a real disappointment.
As soon as a viable electric car comes out we can use for around town errands, the Fit is gone.
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Re: Why can't the Fit get even better mileage? [tfuisz] by marytrary5
Jul 08, 2008 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: tfuisz (Jul 08, 2008 6:25 am)

Are you positive you are calculating your mpg correctly? (Fill up, note odometer, next fill up note gallons & odometer, divide # miles/gallons into the tank). You may also want to average several tanks to make sure there wasn't a fluke at one fill-up. Also be mindful of excessive idling (such as long lines at the drive thru, waiting for someone with the car running, etc.) and how quickly you accelerate. Keep the rpms under 3000, and under 2500 whenever possible.
I have the base AT, and was getting in the mid 20's for the first 2000 miles, and just started getting close to 30, all city. When you are at a red light with the A/C off, what rpm are you idling at? Look at the idle learning procedure a few pages back. You should definitely take it in under warranty, there could be another underlying issue.
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Re: Why can't the Fit get even better mileage? [marytrary5] by jacksan1
Jul 08, 2008 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: marytrary5 (Jul 08, 2008 6:51 am)

Today's cars are heavier, even if they are classified as compact or sub-compact. The Fit weighs about 2500 pounds. I used to have a Civic back in the early 90s, and it weighed something like 2100 pounds. That's a difference of carrying two good-sized American men, and that definitely impacts the gas mileage.
 
And why are today's cars, including the Fit, heavier? As others have remarked, it is primarily the safety requirements, not just with the "bags" and other electronic gizmos, but also with the more rigid body structure, that make the cars heavier.
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Our best Fit mileage: 45.56 by elsabae
Jul 10, 2008 (8:59 am)
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I bought one of the first Fits that was available so I have had it awhile. Manual, base model. I have about 35,000 on it.
 
I find that my driving habits really effect the mileage. I can race around and get about 33 mpg. Or I can drive sensibly and get it over 40. My husband and I have made a game of it and hit 45.56 yesterday. This was a combination of highway driving and back roads. (We live in rural Maine.) Lately our mpg has been 42 or higher.
 
Our techniques are simple and easy. We drive 40 or so on back roads and try to anticipate stops to reduce braking. On the highway we go 55 (him) or 60 (me - I have my limits!).
 
The highway drving speed has been interesting. I slowed down from 75-80 to 60. It adds very little to the total trip time, really bumps the mpg up - and I find it more relaxing. OK, it was a little frustrating at first but I was surprised at how quickly I adjusted.
 
And lets face it, although very safe for a little car, the Fit is still LITTLE! Slower speeds are probably the single simplest way to increase the safety as well as the mpg. You just have more time to react. And at 60 on the highway, you're usually not tailgating anyone (if you are, wave, it is probaby my husband going 55!)
 
Added bonus - you get to feel smug and make disparaging remarks about all the SUV's whizzing by you!
 
BYW, just found out that at highway speeds it is more fuel efficient to use AC than to open the windows (open windows create drag.) At lower speeds, windows are better.
 
I love my Fit! Twice in the last few weeks - once when loading compost and once when loading rental tools from Home Depot - bystanders have commented "So, this is your pick-up truck?" And it IS - I love how much room I have.
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Re: Our best Fit mileage: 45.56 [elsabae] by kipk
Jul 11, 2008 (1:07 am)
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Replying to: elsabae (Jul 10, 2008 8:59 am)

Well said ! Good Post!
 
Kip
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Re: Why can't the Fit get even better mileage? [204meca] by bobw3
Jul 12, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: 204meca (Jul 07, 2008 10:43 pm)

Aerodynamics are the biggest factor affecting highway MPG. That's why the taller and boxier Fit won't get as good MPG as a Civic or Corolla in the real-world, especially when going above 60mph.
 
But then the Fit will cost less to purchase than a Civic or Corolla, so you'll save $$ there that can be used to pay for some gas on the long highway trips. Also, the Fit can hold a lot more stuff than a Civic or Corolla so for our family, we're using the Fit instead of our larger vehicle.
 
Regardless of the interior CuFt specs, when sitting in the Fit, I feel like there's a lot more room inside than in either the Civic or Corolla. Maybe the higher ceiling helps as does the hatchback design, but for me 2 adults and 2 kids in the back have more usable space then in Civic/Corolla, plus the larger cargo area and space under the 2nd row seats to put stuff (with a 7 month old and 3 1/2 year old you have a lot of stuff!).
 
We'll see how the next generation Fit does for MPG...

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