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Replying to: milanored2008 (Jun 15, 2008 4:08 pm) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 01, 2008 6:16 am) "Honda says odometers on 6M cars click off mileage at too-quick pace Updated 2/19/2007 10:10 AM ET "...The carmaker says its odometers were accurate to within 3.75% on the high side and 1% on the low side. "Honda (HMC) is notifying 6 million owners of Hondas and Acuras that they are entitled to warranty extensions and, in some cases, payments because odometers in their vehicles rolled up miles too fast. "That made warranties expire too soon and hit some lease customers with excess-mileage penalties. "...The Society of Automotive Engineers' voluntary standard is plus or minus 4%, or no more than 4 miles high or low in every 100 miles. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it doesn't regulate odometer accuracy. "Honda says its odometers were accurate to within 3.75% on the high side and 1% on the low side, within the SAE standard. But it says it will extend the warranty mileage 5% and will pay lease-mileage penalties due to fast odometers, at least $6 million just for overcharges on vehicles leased directly from Honda. "Holmes says the fault was noted by Jay Kutchka, a Fort Smith, Ark., lawyer who drove a Honda Odyssey. "'No odometer is going to be perfect,' says Honda spokesman Chris Martin. But prompted by the class-action lawsuit, Honda realized, 'The customer expectation is that it would be based on zero. We weren't. So we decided to settle the suit.' "Starting with '07 models, Honda tightened its odometer accuracy and centered in on 0%, Martin says. "A U.S. district court in Texas will accept or reject the settlement, probably this summer [2007]. Holmes says it's rare for a settlement not to be approved. "Vehicles covered in the deal: 2002 to 2006 Hondas and Acuras bought from April 13, 2002, to Nov. 7, 2006. Some 2007 Honda Fits also are included."
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Replying to: andysd (Jul 05, 2008 8:16 am) |
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I have been infatuated with the Fit since I 1st saw one in Panama in 2005. I admit that I am a Fit forums voyager, Truth be told,I love Hondas & have owned about 10 Civics since my 1st 85 wagon. I want an excuse to get a Fit Here is my hang up. Overall I get the impression that most people who consciencious drive to get good mileage (not necessarily hypermiler fanatics) appear to get 33-36 highway mpg - that is pretty dang good mileage. Some occasionally break 40 mpg. But I can't understand why the Fit with its 109 HP engine & all the goodness of Honda engineering can't do 40+ mpg consistently on the highway with occasional runs of 45+. My 92 Civic Si consistently got 30-35 in the city & 40+ on the highway. Same with 2 Del Sol Sis - the manual DS got consistently topped 40 on the highway & AT DS got 43-45. Both rarely dropped below 30 in city/suburban driving. All the Sis had 125 HP & pretty good scoot! My 92 HP VX consistently topped 50 mpg highway.. Admittedly the VX was a very light, bare bones car, specialized fuel mizer. But then doesn't that also describe the Fit (althought the definition of "bare bones" has changed in the last 15 years). Even my wife's Audi A4 1.8T CVT consistently gets 33-36 highway. Compared to the Fit the Audi is huge & vastly more comfortable. So what is it about the Fit & the current crop of fuel misers that they don't seem to be able to consistently break the 40+ mpg barrier? Can't Honda do better with the most fuel efficient car it sells in the US? |
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Replying to: 204meca (Jul 07, 2008 10:43 pm) I'm thinking the Fit was designed to be more of a Town Runabout. The engine is quite small and the shape of the car may not be as aerodynamic as it could be, due to it's "utility" nature. Therefore, running at 70+ mph may place quite a strain on it's drive train. Living on both this and the Civic forum have shown me that the Civic, with it's larger and more powerful engine seems to consistently exceed the Fit in real world mileage on the highway. The Toyota forums also indicate that the Corolla equals or betters the Scion/Yaris models on the road. Late model cars are strapped with stricter EPA requirements than the older ones were. In the early 80s I had a Dodge Colt hatch back that consistently exceeded 40 MPG and it had a carburetor. No fuel injection, no computer. Also a Civic wagon with a 3 speed automatic and carburetor that delivered 32 mpg in most any type of driving. However, I also had an early model MT Ford Pinto that would consistently deliver 21-23 mpg on the highway at 70 mph. That is not a Type-o. 21-23 on the road! What a POS that was. Kip |
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Replying to: 204meca (Jul 07, 2008 10:43 pm) |
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Replying to: marytrary5 (Jul 08, 2008 5:45 am) As soon as a viable electric car comes out we can use for around town errands, the Fit is gone.
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Replying to: tfuisz (Jul 08, 2008 6:25 am) I have the base AT, and was getting in the mid 20's for the first 2000 miles, and just started getting close to 30, all city. When you are at a red light with the A/C off, what rpm are you idling at? Look at the idle learning procedure a few pages back. You should definitely take it in under warranty, there could be another underlying issue.
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Replying to: marytrary5 (Jul 08, 2008 6:51 am) And why are today's cars, including the Fit, heavier? As others have remarked, it is primarily the safety requirements, not just with the "bags" and other electronic gizmos, but also with the more rigid body structure, that make the cars heavier. |
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I bought one of the first Fits that was available so I have had it awhile. Manual, base model. I have about 35,000 on it. I find that my driving habits really effect the mileage. I can race around and get about 33 mpg. Or I can drive sensibly and get it over 40. My husband and I have made a game of it and hit 45.56 yesterday. This was a combination of highway driving and back roads. (We live in rural Maine.) Lately our mpg has been 42 or higher. Our techniques are simple and easy. We drive 40 or so on back roads and try to anticipate stops to reduce braking. On the highway we go 55 (him) or 60 (me - I have my limits!). The highway drving speed has been interesting. I slowed down from 75-80 to 60. It adds very little to the total trip time, really bumps the mpg up - and I find it more relaxing. OK, it was a little frustrating at first but I was surprised at how quickly I adjusted. And lets face it, although very safe for a little car, the Fit is still LITTLE! Slower speeds are probably the single simplest way to increase the safety as well as the mpg. You just have more time to react. And at 60 on the highway, you're usually not tailgating anyone (if you are, wave, it is probaby my husband going 55!) Added bonus - you get to feel smug and make disparaging remarks about all the SUV's whizzing by you! BYW, just found out that at highway speeds it is more fuel efficient to use AC than to open the windows (open windows create drag.) At lower speeds, windows are better. I love my Fit! Twice in the last few weeks - once when loading compost and once when loading rental tools from Home Depot - bystanders have commented "So, this is your pick-up truck?" And it IS - I love how much room I have.
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