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Wagons Scion xB Honda Fit v. Scion xB
66 messages, Last post on Apr 14, 2009 at 6:00 AM
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Replying to: aatherton (Apr 24, 2006 5:01 am) The Honda version is a little more sophisticated. From their web site: The Maintenance Minder system automatically indicates when to have standard service performed based on actual driving conditions (tracked by the ECU) and minimizes the guesswork related to whether the vehicle is being used in standard or severe use conditions for maintenance interval purposes. The display indicates when to change the oil, air cleaner, transmission fluid, spark plugs or coolant, as well as when to rotate the tires |
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Replying to: anotherscott (Apr 16, 2006 4:38 pm) And I don't know if you drive a stick or not, could someone who did compare the shifter and clutch between those two?
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Replying to: nwng (Apr 25, 2006 6:21 am)
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"... The display indicates when to change the oil..." Our Buick LeSabre Limited has that. At 3000 miles it indicated 70% oil life remaining, far longer than I like to go. But I guess the computer reminders would save a car from severe neglect. |
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Replying to: aatherton (Apr 24, 2006 5:01 am) Besides the upright A-pillar that does not smack my head, here is the height difference that makes the xB so easy for me: The Fit is 60" high with 40" headroom. The xB is 64" high with 46" headroom. |
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| We're ready to choose between the two (automatic-both) but thus far have been unable to verify how either will perform when faced with regularly going up and down a 5500 foot mountain (summer season). Would appreciate any input from drivers with XB or FIT mountain-driving experience. | |
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I am currently a Scion xB owner considering a lateral move to the Fit. I'm a Honda fan, but 19 months ago, the Fit wasn't available, so I opted for the best thing on the market for the money. I am a big fan of xB for around town driving. Taking kids to school, grabing some groceries....very roomy, nice stereo, easy to enter and exit the vehicle I am not a big fan of the xB for long trips or mountain driving. I find the vehcile to be very underpowered and the aerodynamics do nothing for it at highway speeds. The gas mileage is about 27 in town, 32 higway....horrendous for such a lightweight, small vehcile. While the vehicle is pretty quiet on the highway, the engine noise is a little much for me. It's like the exhaust is tuned a bit to sound "throaty" and is annoying at times. I also find start up to be a little rough at times and overally I'm not overly impressed with the powerplant in the Toyota. Around town it's great, but the xB is not a highway vehcile and has a tendancy to "beat you up" on long trips. |
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Replying to: jimmy5150 (May 01, 2006 6:14 am) The Fit, on the other hand, has an exceptionally smooth shifter, shorter in throw than the xB's, but still a bit long. Clutch is light and smooth also, but the point of engagement is a bit narrow compared to the xB, so it's taking me a little bit to get used to it still. Downshifts are much easier than the xB I'd say, blipping to revmatch is almost second-nature and very natural and smooth. Smooth is the keyword with the Fit over the xB I'd say, tranny/clutch wise. My only real complaint is that the car is way too quiet for my taste. I know many people are the opposite, but when I'm driving, I'm driving, not trying to duplicate sittng on the sofa in my livingroom with a wheel in front of me. I want direct feedback, both from the engine and road, which I feel the Fit lacks compared to the xB, although the Fit's handling is greater overall. The xB had a very direct, immediate feel to it, whereas the Fit is a bit dead, probably due to softer springs/dampers.
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I had looked at the Fit and noticed a few things with the Xb: - No telescoping steering wheel - No seat height adjuster - No sunroof. Of course, neither does the Fit. The fit has side airbags, a useable center console. The Xb has unuseable for larger drinks cupholders and the dash near the driver is incapable of actually securely storing anything in those little 2-3 inch deep indents. The Xb also has a deal-breaker for me. No rear cupholders, console, A/C vents - nothing. It's completely sparse and vacant, and none of the options fix this. It reminds me of the rear of an extended cab pickup truck - the jumpseats are just that - a seat. nothing more. Oh, and while it also does tall and refresh modes(or simmilar), the Fit's rear seats go back a second notch so as to actually be comfortable. Problems with the Fit(to be fair-we know most of the Xbs already): - No locking gas cover - Dead pedal area is strangely curved, so you can't rest your foot on the floor, even. - No maplights/garage door opener buttons. - No traction or stability control. - rear seats are reversed. In the XB, the wider seat is behind the passenger. In the Fit, they still have it set up for the Japanese market - with the wider seat behind the driver, who usually sits much farther back than the front passenger does. OOPS. - visors are also reversed. No mirror on the passenger side but one on the driver's side? OOPS. |
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Replying to: jimmy5150 (May 01, 2006 6:14 am) At 2,200 miles with a manual transmission, my worst tank during break-in on rural roads with constant speed variation (wasteful acceleration and deceleration) was 33 mpg. My best tank after break-in was 40.5 mpg, which took some concentration to acheive. In normal driving keeping up with traffic around my city of Louisville, I consistently get 35 mpg.
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