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Hatchbacks Honda Fit Addressing the Fit's shortcomings
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Replying to: moparbad (Apr 22, 2006 3:46 pm) P.S. I forgot to mention that it costs $690 just to get the Jazz in any color other than red. |
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That 16K includes VAT and import fees. The actual pre-import cost for a base Fit? Canada has a roughly 7% import fee, so convert the cost to US$ and then figure out what the price would be at 7% less initial cost(slightly different calculation than subtracting 7%). It's about 12K. |
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Replying to: chimaera2005 (Jun 02, 2006 11:54 pm) No, the Jazz in Britain starts around $16,500. Britain doesn't represent all of Europe. Also, you are forgetting two things. First, as plekto mentioned VAT is included. Second, the US dollar has weakened considerably against European currencies, so while the price for the car in Europe hasn't changed, it has gone up considerably in the past month when comparing it to the dollar. Example, in Hungary the Jazz 1.2i S (exact same base model you are talking about) starts at 2,320,250 Ft or about US$11,400. That includes VAT, but not registration. However, even with the registration (also including VAT) it only goes up to US$13,000...and that's with the forint being fairly strong against the dollar right now. A month ago the price with registration would have been like US$12,200, throw on about US$300 for metallic paint. The base price of 2.3 million Ft hasn't changed, but compared to the dollar, it's about $800 more expensive now. US$16,500 in non-Eurozone Central Europe would get you the Jazz 1.4i ES which has everything (including automatic climate control, alloy wheels, etc.) Even in more expensive countries like Germany the car starts at US$14,000. Again in that case, the Euro is really strong. A few months ago it would have been in the US$12,500 range and all of the prices include taxes.
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Replying to: chimaera2005 (Jun 02, 2006 11:54 pm) Yes, this is a US (and Canadian) first for the Fit and keeping the cost down would make sense since they didn't really know how people would react. However, the US-market Fit has larger bumpers, larger front quarter panels, stretched-out headlights, and the fuel filler door has been moved up  . Then there are some other firsts for the Fit on the US/Canadian models, including available cruise control, drive-by-wire throttle, an available 5-speed conventional automatic transmission, and side-curtain airbags. These were all specially developed for these two countries. If they could invest so much time and money on these things, adding existing features like seat height adjustment would have practically cost nothing in comparison.
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Replying to: hungarian83 (Jun 03, 2006 9:32 am) Then there are some other firsts for the Fit on the US/Canadian models, including available cruise control, drive-by-wire throttle, an available 5-speed conventional automatic transmission, and side-curtain airbags. These were all specially developed for these two countries. If they could invest so much time and money on these things, adding existing features like seat height adjustment would have practically cost nothing in comparison. Does make you wonder, doesn't it?
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Replying to: johnnyvj (Jun 03, 2006 11:07 am)
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Jun 03, 2006 2:13 pm) |
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Jun 03, 2006 2:13 pm) All I did is inform the previous poster that it wasn't to save costs that the car is lacking things that are available in other markets. A little bit of constructive criticism or speculating why a company does or doesn't do something doesn't imply you hate it or the product they produce. After all, this is the "Addressing the Fit's shortcomings" discussion.
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Replying to: hungarian83 (Jun 03, 2006 4:10 pm) Exactly. And when did we adopt this 'love it or leave it' attitude towards cars? They're just a tool we use, after all. Its not like we're hurting their feelings by pointing out any shortcomings.  Also, with Edmunds being one of the premiere auto sites, I'd like to think that someone from Honda checks in here once in a blue moon, as just one more feedback resource to see what customers really do want out of their cars (I work for a different Japanese company, non-automotive, and yes, we do look at Internet forums sometimes for product feedback). If so, we'd be doing a disservice by NOT pointing out the flaws. I mean, how in the world do you think products get improved? By pretending they're perfect?  |
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Replying to: hungarian83 (Jun 03, 2006 9:20 am) ). Perhaps instead of complaining about the Fit not having adjustable seat height, we should move to the Civic forum and talk about how 'overpriced' it is.  P.S. Where can I learn about VAT and the current foreign exchange rates?
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