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Hatchbacks Honda Fit Addressing the Fit's shortcomings
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Replying to: moparbad (May 23, 2006 9:16 am) A better example of "overpriced" is the case of the 2006 Accent. When it was introduced, its price was $15,400 for a model with power package and automatic--in other words, with the kind of equipment many people want. Hyundai dealers complained to HMA that the price was too high--it's even higher than the price of the base Fit! The cars were not selling well. HMA agreed and put a $1000 rebate on the car. If and when the sales of the Fit drop off and cars start sitting in dealer lots, you will see prices drop. Until then, it is priced right for current market conditions. Is it priced higher than I would like it to be? Sure! I'd like to buy a base Fit AT for $12,000. But that is an unrealistic expectation based on Honda's costs and market dynamics. |
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Replying to: moparbad (May 23, 2006 9:16 am) What does overpriced mean to you?" The market determines whether something is overpriced or not. In that sense, it is not a subjective term like "the price is too high". You might think the price of product X is too high at $1000. However, if demand greatly exceeds supply, a price of $1500 could be appropriate. When demand decreases, $1500 might indeed be considered overpriced and the price should drop. That being said, the Fit may be considered (by the market) to be overpriced in a few months. That will be at the point where demand drops to a level that the price will need to drop accordingly. However, demand is high across the US now, and that influences the price. You might think the price is too high and that's your opinion, but that doesn't mean it is actually overpriced...the market decides that. There is a saying "a fool and his money are soon parted". ...and there is also a saying called "supply and demand". |
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Replying to: hungarian83 (May 22, 2006 9:54 am) -Won't happen on this generation. It's part of the design of the car, and it is this way on all Fit/Jazzes worldwide. It seems to be the lack of space from the wheel well. From what I have seen on cars, pedals spaced close together are often caused by a short-nose design in which the wheel well intrudes into the passenger space. Seat height adjustment: -Standard in certain other markets, not sure why they don't have it in North America Center armrest: -Accessory in certain other markets, not sure why they don't have it in North America. However, unlike the seat-height adjustment issue, this one probably is not that difficult to resolve. Aftermarket ones are available, or if you try hard enough you can probably get one from Honda in a European country. Dead pedal- That is a shame. But how hard is it to add a four-inch wide plank of rubber-coated metal to the left side of the foot well? It can go above the weird little hump if need be. C'mon Honda, there's simply no good excuse for this. Height adjustment- Another very avoidable shame. C'mon Honda, so much is good with this car, why ruin some of the Fit-ty goodness with a silly oversight like this?  Center armrest- Yeah, I'm hearing that you can import the Jazz center armrest. If true, I'll definitely be doing that if I get a Fit. Again though, have to wonder why Honda missed the ball on this one too. So annoying to have such a good car marred by some pretty easily avoidable mistakes.  |
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Replying to: moparbad (May 22, 2006 5:11 pm) |
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Replying to: johnnyvj (May 06, 2006 8:38 pm)
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Replying to: upland22 (May 30, 2006 5:08 pm) Ken |
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Replying to: moparbad (Apr 22, 2006 3:46 pm) P.S. I forgot to mention that it costs $690 just to get the Jazz in any color other than red. |
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That 16K includes VAT and import fees. The actual pre-import cost for a base Fit? Canada has a roughly 7% import fee, so convert the cost to US$ and then figure out what the price would be at 7% less initial cost(slightly different calculation than subtracting 7%). It's about 12K. |
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Replying to: chimaera2005 (Jun 02, 2006 11:54 pm) No, the Jazz in Britain starts around $16,500. Britain doesn't represent all of Europe. Also, you are forgetting two things. First, as plekto mentioned VAT is included. Second, the US dollar has weakened considerably against European currencies, so while the price for the car in Europe hasn't changed, it has gone up considerably in the past month when comparing it to the dollar. Example, in Hungary the Jazz 1.2i S (exact same base model you are talking about) starts at 2,320,250 Ft or about US$11,400. That includes VAT, but not registration. However, even with the registration (also including VAT) it only goes up to US$13,000...and that's with the forint being fairly strong against the dollar right now. A month ago the price with registration would have been like US$12,200, throw on about US$300 for metallic paint. The base price of 2.3 million Ft hasn't changed, but compared to the dollar, it's about $800 more expensive now. US$16,500 in non-Eurozone Central Europe would get you the Jazz 1.4i ES which has everything (including automatic climate control, alloy wheels, etc.) Even in more expensive countries like Germany the car starts at US$14,000. Again in that case, the Euro is really strong. A few months ago it would have been in the US$12,500 range and all of the prices include taxes.
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