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Hatchbacks Honda Fit Addressing the Fit's shortcomings
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Replying to: plekto (May 22, 2006 9:24 pm) No, the Fit is not overpriced. The price might be high to you, but it is not overpriced. In a few months, when supply meets (or exceeds) demand, the price will be adjusted accordingly with dealers offering prices less than MSRP, etc. If it was overpriced, people wouldn't be buying them left and right, and they would be sitting on dealer lots. Dealers are actually charging premiums on this car. If it was overpriced, they couldn't do that and sell the cars. "It's even more than the Civic Value Package(which they don't sell in the U.S., but isn't hard to figure out and convert from Euros)" What are you talking about? Two things... 1. Name a Euro-zone country (actually name any European country) that has a Civic Value Package. 2. You can't even compare prices between countries, let alone continents. There are destination fees, import taxes, registration, everything. A Jazz Sport 5MT in Germany costs the equivalent of US$21,700 and that's with only the L13A engine. Add $1000 for CVT. The base Civic in Germany costs over US$20,000. And that's for a car with a 1.4L engine that does 0-62mph in 14.6 seconds. Doesn't even have wheel covers...just the bare steel wheels. To me, $20k for a base Civic with the smallest engine and a manual transmission is quite a bit above the price of a US-market Fit Sport 5AT. The top end Civic (2.2i-CTDi Executive) is over $30,000. Do I need to go on?
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Replying to: hungarian83 (May 23, 2006 7:17 am) What does overpriced mean to you? Overpriced = too costly for the value. Simply because people are willing to pay a a given price does not mean that the item is not overpriced. VW New Beetle sold for MSRP and higher. Chrysler PT Cruiser sold for MSRP and higher. Pontiac Fiero sold for MSRP and higher. There is a saying "a fool and his money are soon parted".
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*Waits patiently for the Accord Special Pricing sales incentive to expire on 5/31 so that this thread can become un-hijacked* |
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Replying to: moparbad (May 23, 2006 9:16 am) A better example of "overpriced" is the case of the 2006 Accent. When it was introduced, its price was $15,400 for a model with power package and automatic--in other words, with the kind of equipment many people want. Hyundai dealers complained to HMA that the price was too high--it's even higher than the price of the base Fit! The cars were not selling well. HMA agreed and put a $1000 rebate on the car. If and when the sales of the Fit drop off and cars start sitting in dealer lots, you will see prices drop. Until then, it is priced right for current market conditions. Is it priced higher than I would like it to be? Sure! I'd like to buy a base Fit AT for $12,000. But that is an unrealistic expectation based on Honda's costs and market dynamics. |
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Replying to: moparbad (May 23, 2006 9:16 am) What does overpriced mean to you?" The market determines whether something is overpriced or not. In that sense, it is not a subjective term like "the price is too high". You might think the price of product X is too high at $1000. However, if demand greatly exceeds supply, a price of $1500 could be appropriate. When demand decreases, $1500 might indeed be considered overpriced and the price should drop. That being said, the Fit may be considered (by the market) to be overpriced in a few months. That will be at the point where demand drops to a level that the price will need to drop accordingly. However, demand is high across the US now, and that influences the price. You might think the price is too high and that's your opinion, but that doesn't mean it is actually overpriced...the market decides that. There is a saying "a fool and his money are soon parted". ...and there is also a saying called "supply and demand". |
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Replying to: hungarian83 (May 22, 2006 9:54 am) -Won't happen on this generation. It's part of the design of the car, and it is this way on all Fit/Jazzes worldwide. It seems to be the lack of space from the wheel well. From what I have seen on cars, pedals spaced close together are often caused by a short-nose design in which the wheel well intrudes into the passenger space. Seat height adjustment: -Standard in certain other markets, not sure why they don't have it in North America Center armrest: -Accessory in certain other markets, not sure why they don't have it in North America. However, unlike the seat-height adjustment issue, this one probably is not that difficult to resolve. Aftermarket ones are available, or if you try hard enough you can probably get one from Honda in a European country. Dead pedal- That is a shame. But how hard is it to add a four-inch wide plank of rubber-coated metal to the left side of the foot well? It can go above the weird little hump if need be. C'mon Honda, there's simply no good excuse for this. Height adjustment- Another very avoidable shame. C'mon Honda, so much is good with this car, why ruin some of the Fit-ty goodness with a silly oversight like this?  Center armrest- Yeah, I'm hearing that you can import the Jazz center armrest. If true, I'll definitely be doing that if I get a Fit. Again though, have to wonder why Honda missed the ball on this one too. So annoying to have such a good car marred by some pretty easily avoidable mistakes.  |
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Replying to: johnnyvj (May 06, 2006 8:38 pm)
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Replying to: upland22 (May 30, 2006 5:08 pm) Ken |
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