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Re: honda fit isnt that good [enka] by hungarian83
Apr 21, 2006 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: enka (Apr 21, 2006 2:53 pm)

Honda Fit isn't that good?
Come on enka, have you even seen the Fit or Jazz?
 
I'm sure the Hyundai Accent is a vastly improved car over the previous generation (and I completely admit I haven't even seen the new one), but I just don't know if I would call the Fit "not that good" in comparison to the Accent.
 
"2 color tone"
The Fit/Jazz has a two-color interior. I am European and I have to say when I first saw my car on Tuesday (when I went to pick it up), it wasn't the "2 color tone" that made me think of European styling. The hatchback body style, small exterior, small front end, and excellent utilization of space did, but the two-tone interior, just didn't make me think of home.
 
...and I can say as a Fit owner, it is that good.
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [timbuk3] by backy
Apr 21, 2006 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: timbuk3 (Apr 21, 2006 3:09 pm)

The 2007 Accent 3-door hatchback will be in dealers in a few weeks. It comes in 2 trim levels: GS (base), and SE, which has a ton of equipment standard including sport-tuned suspension and steering rack, 5-spoke 16" alloys, ABS, 6 airbags, A/C, power windows/locks/heated mirrors, remote locking, 172-watt 6-speaker stereo, 8-way adjustable driver's seat, driver's armrest, etc. Only factory options are a 220-watt stereo with subwoofer and a power moonroof.
 
Have you driven this car yet? No, I didn't think so. So it's probably unfair to say it is a terribly un-fun car to drive, don't you think? Have you driven even the Accent GLS 4-door yet? If not, then you should before you say things like "it's dirt cheap" and "you pay for what you get". And C/D did not say the Accent's suspension is like "moving boulders." They praised the ride but didn't like the handling in the twisties. I've driven the Accent 4-door and it handles very nicely for an economy car--doesn't track like it's on rails, but that isn't necessary for people who are using the car for running errands and commuting. The Accent has an exceptionally comfortable driving position, due to the 8-way seat--something I wish Honda would copy. It's a solid, smooth, quiet, well-made little car. Not the sheer versatility of the Fit, but a good enough car that C/D said in its review (paraphrase), if you haven't driven it, go ahead and do it. Good advice before passing judgment on it.
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [enka] by thegraduate
Apr 21, 2006 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: enka (Apr 21, 2006 2:53 pm)

A comma, or period would be nice for your next post, please. Writing like yours was incredibly hard to read.
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [backy] by timbuk3
Apr 21, 2006 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 21, 2006 5:30 pm)

Yeah, I suppose you're right. BUT, that post just totally came out of the blue and though I haven't driven it, it's a Hyundai, and it's just hard for me to believe it would be better overall than a Honda. Honda has such a better reputation, it seems that that alone would be an indicator that the Fit will hold up better against the test of time than any Suzuki, Hyundai, or Kia. To each their own, though.
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [backy] by plekto
Apr 21, 2006 (10:34 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 21, 2006 5:30 pm)

Wow. I've driven the Hyundais and Kias and went over all of them with a fine tooth comb last year trying to figure out if I wanted one or not.
 
Problems with the Kia/Hyundai.
- engines get poor gas mileage for their HP and size. I can look at a Buick that gets 21/29 with an engine almost twice the size and 1000 lbs heavier. They obviously are using older technology under the hood.
- Switches and interior in general is cheap. Looks good, but it's the only car I had a vent "aimer"/outlet cover actually come off in my hand while moving. The switches are flimsy, the plastic is thin and hard, the glass is adequate at best. Overall, they remind me of a Ford Escort in terms of ruggedness.
- Dreadful transmissions. Second most rubbery stickshift I've ever driven. Actually missed numerous shifts. On a Fit, aa Volvo, a Mini, and even a Focus - shifting was at least predictable. Automatics were sloppy and often shifted with a sharp thunk on really steep hills. The Fit has a shifter comparable to a Celica or Mini. Way WAY above the level of most of its competition. Only the Golf is better, but VW really concentrates on manual gearboxes.
- Pathetic resale and warranty. Worst in the business in terms of reseale and the dealers cutting all coverage in half just because it's used is nuts.
 
The Fit by comparison feels every bit like a half-sized Accord Wagon. Fit and finish are only a slight bit behind the Golf/Audi and the Mini. Worlds better than Kia, GM, Ford, and Chrysler at this price-point.
 
Go test-drive one. It's not a Mercedes, but it certianly isn't a Rio or Echo.
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [plekto] by bodble2
Apr 21, 2006 (10:37 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Apr 21, 2006 10:34 pm)

Perhaps it should be called the Honda Fit and Finish!
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [plekto] by backy
Apr 22, 2006 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Apr 21, 2006 10:34 pm)

You have obviously not driven the latest Hyundai and Kia designs, including the '06 Accent. I haven't found any of the quality issues you mentioned (cheap switches and interior materials, "adequate at best" glass (how did you test that, btw?)). I agree the stick on the Accent is not as good as on the Fit, but the automatic is smooth with no "thunks". And I don't know how you can call Hyundai's warranty "pathetic"--it's one of the best in the industry and far longer and more comprehensive than Honda's (How many years of roadside assistance do you get with Honda? How many years of bumper-to-bumper coverage?)
 
I will test drive the Fit in the next couple of weeks, at a special Fit preview event at my local dealer. It remains at the top of my shopping list for my next new car, but driving will be the real test. Meanwhile, you won't see me disparage the ride and handling and other driving behavior of a car I haven't driven yet.
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [backy] by jpmccormac
Apr 22, 2006 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 22, 2006 5:04 am)

Re: "And I don't know how you can call Hyundai's warranty "pathetic"--
 
Honda warranty isn't great compared to others. Even VW offers 4yr./50K bumper to bumper. Of course, VWs have a few more issues than most Hondas.
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [timbuk3] by kagedude
Apr 22, 2006 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: timbuk3 (Apr 21, 2006 3:09 pm)

Honda reliability, gas mileage, utility, and value go a long way.
 
Go ask someone that remember the 70's what they thought of Honda when they first came out.
 
Hyundai does not have the reputation.
 
You might not think so now but give it a few more years. For me, my trust in the brand started 5 years ago and they are getting there. Just changed the tires on my sister's 2001 Elantra and it drives like new. The engine is still very quiet. From the wipers, bulb lights and alignment, found out everything was original. My family has 2 Elantras (2001 and 2004) and I used to drive a 2002 Accent GLS. Between the 3 cars, I would say 4 dealer/warranty trips for either recall or minor issues.
 
Check out Edmunds' TSB reports for the Civic vs Accent vs Elantra and you would be surprised.
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Re: honda fit isnt that good [kagedude] by bodble2
Apr 22, 2006 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: kagedude (Apr 22, 2006 8:25 am)

I may not buy a Korean car at this time point, but, and I have said this before, in 3 - 5 years, they will be where the Japanese cars are now. If you look back at the evolution of the Japanese car, they took the exact same developmental path. Of course, it remains to be seen if the Japanese will stay and compete with the Korean, or would they "move up" and compete more with the Euros.

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