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You are in the Honda Fit
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Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Hatchback
#30 of 257 Re: ... [plekto]
Apr 23, 2006 (10:38 am)
Which year Accent did you drive? A 2006 GLS sedan, right? If so, you should have noticed it has 6 airbags and ABS with EBD standard, just like the Fit. So your comment about "lack of standard safety features" is very perplexing to me.
If you must have a stick shift, I can see how you could eliminate the Accent just based on that. The Fit is superior there according to the experts. But why make all the other inaccurate statements about the Accent? Just knock it off your list and move on.
What gets me is that they cut it in half like no other manufacturer does.
OK, now you are losing all credibility with me. I just told you in my last post that Mitsubishi has the same kind of warranty program as does Hyundai. Meaning that the 10-year, 100k mile powertrain warranty applies only to the original owner--just like with Hyundai. So I figure you are either being intentionally rude or just don't bother to read what other people post before replying. You are also mis-stating fact when you say Hyundai's warranty is "cut in half" if the car is sold. That is not what happens. What happens is the 10-year/100k mile powertrain warranty does not transfer to the new owner. Nothing is cut in half. The remainder of the 5-year, 60k mile bumper-to-bumper warranty (which btw includes the powertrain) transfers. Do the math: 60k is not half of 100k.
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/pdf/owners/2007_Pass%20Car%20and%20SUV%20Warranty%- - 20Booklet.pdf
#31 of 257 Re: ... [joe97]
Apr 23, 2006 (10:39 am)
True, but the thing has crazy Mini-like handling and a good gearbox, plus decent suspension(they noted how ALL of the others had suspension problems).
That all adds up. Go test-drive a Fit - it handles like a Mini and not a subcompact. To me, that's well worth any price-difference right there.
Okay, so Mitsubishi has a simmilar program. My bad. Scratch them off my list, too. Either they are willing to stand by their warranty or it's just marketing B.S. Toyota has a miserably short warranty, yet nobody has a problem buying them - they are built incredibly well.
#32 of 257 Re: ... [plekto]
Apr 23, 2006 (10:46 am)
Car and Driver agrees - they gave the Hyundai a miserable(last place) rating in a 7 car comparison and the fit won by 25 points over 2nd place - a huge margin.
Totally untrue--the Accent came in 5th out of 7. (The Rio5 that you savaged earlier came in 3rd.) And C/D said in its review (paraphrase), if you haven't driven the Accent yet, you should. It looks to me that C/D thought pretty highly of the Accent, to tell its readers that they should go out and try it.
Ouch. I'll take half the depreciation, even if it is $1000 more for the Honda.
LOL!! This is just too much. Tell me how I could get anywhere close to $15,000 in a private-party sale for a '01 Civic EX stick. That is what I would need to get for it to "take half the depreciation."
And the Honda would have cost about $6000 more than the Elantra, not $1000 more.
Toyota has a miserably short warranty,...
Yes, as miserably short as the warranty on the Fit.
#33 of 257 Re: ... [plekto]
Apr 23, 2006 (10:48 am)
I am more interested to see a comparison between the Accent SE vs. Fit Sport and other similiarly priced hatchbacks.
By the way, you talk more BS than my next-door neighbor - maybe I'm talking with my neighbor.
Please check facts first. Thank you!!
#34 of 257 Re: ... [joe97]
Apr 23, 2006 (10:50 am)
Yes, I am looking forward to that also. With the SE's sport handling, I think it will be a much closer comparison.
Apr 23, 2006 (11:32 am)
Honda focuses on handling, more so than most car companies; something that car enthusiasts particularly like. The Fit is more nimble than its competitors on a track and zipping around town. A big reason why Honda wins out a lot is because of its "fun to drive" factor. The same test gave Hyundai (Accent GLS) credit for having a smooth ride, but faulted it for uncivilized handling.
And, BTW, Honda recently went 0 for 2 in a comparo involving sports sedans under $30k. The Honda Accord EXV6 6-speed came in 2nd (behind a Jetta GLI) and an Acura TSX came in third (out of five altogether, beating a 274 hp Mazda and the Pontiac G6 GTP).
#36 of 257 Re: ... [thegraduate]
Apr 23, 2006 (12:10 pm)
I am fairly sure the Accent SE (hatchback) would have the fun-to-drive factor, given the firmer suspension (tuned from the front to the back - 70% firmer than the sedan version, on par with the Tib), 16" and the ultralight weigh (less than 2,400 lbs if I recall). I would not be surprised if it manages the best handling in the class.
#37 of 257 re: Hyundai [plekto]
Apr 23, 2006 (1:11 pm)
I've owned several Honda Civics, Accords, and a couple of Nissans and Toyotas. Plus, SAABs and Volvos. My wife has an '06 Hyundai Elantra, and I'm impressed. The switchgear in this car feels as good as any Civic I've owned, but only time will tell how it holds up over 200K miles of course.
One thing that unquestionably impresses me about Hyundai is the reponsiveness and caring attitude of the dealer, and the company itself. Since the purchase of the Elantra on Christmas Eve (2005), a company rep has called us at least 4 times to ensure our satisfaction with the car. I never had any of the Japanese manfuacturer's call me - for anything, even when we were having long-term computer problems with the last Civic. Hyundai's attitude reminds me how Datsun used to be back in the late '60s through the mid '70s.
I don't know, I'm sure some of your observations are valid, but I don't get any feeling of cheapness driving this Elantra. The HVAC controls have a smooth feel to them, as do the other controls. And, it rides better than an Accord EX. Note, I didn't say "handled better," but it "rides better," plus it has less road noise.
The Fit is really a neat and nice car for the money, but I think the Elantra for $13,500 delivered, including TTL, is no slouch either. Drive a current model Hyundai, such as the current generation Accent, you may be plesantly surprised - my wife and I were.
#38 of 257 re: Hyundai [w9cw]
Apr 23, 2006 (1:21 pm)
Glad to hear about the Hyundai dealer's attention to customer happiness; not everyone is as lucky with such an experience with ANY car dealer. I bet it rides better than the Accord, and like you said, probably doesn't handle as well; that's a tradeoff a LOT of people are willing to make though, so it's not really a fault as much as a marketing choice.
Overall, w9cw, good post (#37). Had lots of good info (even though it's opinion on a lot of it, it seemed pretty straightforward and unbiased). Keep up the good posting. I'm off to church soon, so I'll check in later tonight.
#39 of 257 re: Hyundai [thegraduate]
Apr 23, 2006 (1:31 pm)
I've owned the 2002 Accent and driven the 2001 and 2004 Elantra more than a few times. If you search for my ownership experience in the Accent forums, you'll find that my previous 2002 Accent GLS gave me the most satisfying ownership experience. The build and ride quality was superb for its class and it did what it was supposed to do. For my sister and mom's Elantra experience, its the same as well.
In comparison, my 2001 Maxima (CEL, untraceable squeaks, vibrations, ECM) and traded in 2004 Acura TSX (windshield/dashboard squeaks) are irritating issues throughout the ownership which is why I don't drive them anymore.