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Re: Improvement [backy]
by bobw3
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Nov 02, 2006 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 02, 2006 10:53 am)
Actually, why not compare the 4dr hatch Rabbit to the Fit. Granted it's more expensive, but it has more features, and price is only one means of comparison. If I had the choice between a Rabbit 4dr and Fit at the same price I'd probably still go with the Fit because of my concern over VW quality (in terms of repair history, not inside materials) and the poor MPG (I can't see buying a car the size of the Rabbit with the MPG of a minivan!
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- #191 of 239
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Re: Improvement [bobw3]
by backy
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Nov 02, 2006 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 02, 2006 11:05 am)
Compare whatever you like... but dream on if you think you can get a 4-door Rabbit for the same price as a Fit.
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Re: Improvement [backy]
by bobw3
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Nov 02, 2006 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 02, 2006 11:22 am)
You can't, but the point is that if you don't compare them, then one might just assume that because the Rabbit is priced higher then it automatically is "better" than the Fit. Based on size they're in the same class, so if someone is looking for a 4dr hatch, then they can compare all of the 4dr hatches to see which one meets their needs, with price being one of them. But I don't see why you'd compare the Rabbit to the Ford Fusion for example, just because you can get them for the same price. So price should be secondary to functionality when comparisons are made...at least in my opinion. I guess some people will say, "What car can I get for $20K" and they may end up with a pickup truck or a sports car!
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Dreams
by eldaino
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Nov 02, 2006 (12:21 pm)
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I like dreams!! 
And no i doubt you could find one for the same price, lots of content, but i don't think the vee dub plays the same game as the fit. They are both hatchs' but in two different leagues. Even though some honda dealers do mark up quite a bit. You could get a nice 2 door for a little bit more than a decked out honda fit sport.
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Re: Dreams [eldaino]
by bobw3
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Nov 02, 2006 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Nov 02, 2006 12:21 pm)
I guess I consider two different leagues is a comparison between a Focus wagon and a BMW 3 series wagon, or a Mercedes to a Kia just because you can get 4dr sedans from both, but I think cars like the Versa, Fit, Rabbit, Accent, Focus, Mazda3, Matrix, and other 4dr hatches are all in the same general league (all less than $20K) with some being on the higher end in price and some at the lower end in terms of price. And all of them having positive and negative points.
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- #195 of 239
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Fold down seats
by crimsona
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Nov 02, 2006 (12:49 pm)
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I don't bother sliding the driver/passenger seats forward to fold down the rear seats. I just take off the rear headrests and fold as needed. Probably less work to attach/unattach the rear headrests than to slide, unfold, slide.
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Re: Improvement [bobw3]
by backy
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Nov 02, 2006 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 02, 2006 12:18 pm)
The question should be I think, "What can I get for $NNk that meets my needs?" For some people, either a Rabbit or Fusion might meet their needs. Others might be looking specifically for a hatchback, so that rules out the Fusion. For example, for my next car I could go with either a sedan or hatchback, so I'm considering both.
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Re: Improvement [backy]
by bobw3
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Nov 02, 2006 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 02, 2006 12:53 pm)
Exactly, but there could be some variance on the $$. For me, I was planning on spending between $15-20K.
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Re: Dreams [bobw3]
by eldaino
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Nov 02, 2006 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 02, 2006 12:41 pm)
Well, considering you could get a mazda 3 or even a toyota matrix for well over 17000(my rabbit is a 2 door and it was around that), that is a bit different than someone who wants an entry level accent or fit because of financial reasons. Usually anything higher than that target price, as nice as it would be to have a car at that level, is out of their 'league'. Thats what i meant. Econo hatch backs exist to meet those needs, but, (and i can't belive im citing this) in a sarcastic joke i said to backy earlier, he actually made a point; you wouldnt compare a honda fit to a gti, or a mazda speed 3 or a bmw 1 series. Yes they are all hatch backs (and a cut above the rabbit) but in the same fashion,(base price aside) the rabbit, civic mazda 3 and sentra are a cut above thier cheaper brethren in numerous aspects.
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Re: Improvement [bobw3]
by eldaino
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Nov 02, 2006 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 02, 2006 12:18 pm)
i have to disagree with you on this: for example the gti and mazda 3 are hatchbacks that share the same dimensions as the audi a3, but because they are roughly the same size does not mean that they compete in the same class. A3 is considered a premium sport wagon much like the bmw3 and 1 series is, but they are so not in the same class. Does a mini cooper s compete in the same class as a toyota yaris? They are both small hatchbacks... 
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