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Replying to: backy (Apr 22, 2006 5:04 am) Honda warranty isn't great compared to others. Even VW offers 4yr./50K bumper to bumper. Of course, VWs have a few more issues than most Hondas. |
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Replying to: timbuk3 (Apr 21, 2006 3:09 pm) Go ask someone that remember the 70's what they thought of Honda when they first came out. Hyundai does not have the reputation. You might not think so now but give it a few more years. For me, my trust in the brand started 5 years ago and they are getting there. Just changed the tires on my sister's 2001 Elantra and it drives like new. The engine is still very quiet. From the wipers, bulb lights and alignment, found out everything was original. My family has 2 Elantras (2001 and 2004) and I used to drive a 2002 Accent GLS. Between the 3 cars, I would say 4 dealer/warranty trips for either recall or minor issues. Check out Edmunds' TSB reports for the Civic vs Accent vs Elantra and you would be surprised.
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Replying to: kagedude (Apr 22, 2006 8:25 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Apr 22, 2006 8:36 am) Hyundai and Mazda has no problems providing those accessories standard. Why can't Honda? |
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really should be the Rio5, as the Accent is only available as a sedan or a 3-door. That's correct, isn't it Backy? All the reviews have been saying that the Accent is the Korean Toyota to the Rio's Honda, in terms of handling. It would be worth test driving the Rio5 if you are one who appreciates the Fit's sporty handling traits, especially since the Rio5 is the only 5-door (like Fit) between the two Korean models. The Rio/Accent manual shifter is just terrible - all sorts of slop. But the new Korean models are cute on the outside. And the equipment level is very favorable in a back-to-back comparo with Fit. It's funny, I finally saw a Fit in person today, just to walk around, as it was pre-sold. By coincidence that dealership had a used Suzuki Aerio SX on the lot that was parked just down the row, and wow! There are a lot of similarities, especially in rear views. The Accent/Rio hatches look very good by comparison, I think. I noticed that thing about the fuel filler door - it is funny to see the little hook on the inside where it would normally latch closed, even though here there is no latch and you just pull it open from the outside using the little dimple in the door surface. The dealer I was at today had no added mark-up, or if he did there was no sticker in the window to indicate it, just the regular Honda sticker. $16,5 for a Sport auto seems like quite a bit, but I would take it over the Civic LX you could probably get for the same money. But of course, I wouldn't get an auto! Now $15,7 for the stick puts it in direct competition with the Accent SE with the sub and the moonroof at about the same price. If you can live with two passenger doors in your hatch instead of four, the Hyundai is worth a look.
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 21, 2006 9:51 pm) We don't know the pricing on the Accent SE yet, but given the GS will sticker at $11,500 including destination and we know the pricing on most of the features of the SE based on pricing for the GLS, a fully loaded (including automatic) SE around $15k is not out of the question. That would put it a couple of thousand at least under the Fit (more like $3k with current rebates), and the Fit doesn't have features like 16" alloys and moonroof, and features like cargo covers, driver's armrests, floor mats, and locking gas fillers are expensive add-ons on the Fit. Also, let's not forget the Accent SE has a sport-tuned suspension and steering rack, plus the 16" alloys, so it should handle much better than the Accent sedan and even the Rio5. I am trying to recall if the SE has a tweaked stick shift also. I am sorry to go on like this, but it amazes me sometimes how some people discount a car for its driving behavior before even driving it. |
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Hey this is Enka. 2007 Hyundai accent coupe has better look than the honda fit. Honda fit shows that honda engineers or desighners didnt spend much time on Fit because it doesnt look any speacial. But Hyundai spend lots of time to make the new accent look great interior and exterior. Honda still has the same interior since 1996 civic just a lil bit changes same old dash board. I got to say before you buy a fit check out the Hyundai accent because you can customize the accent like chrome exhoaust, ipod holder spiler, 17 or 16 inch rims more than 25 stuff to customize your ride but Fit looks boring. when you driving the fit on the road no ones going ot say ooo look at that car becaise there isnt anything speacial with the exteiror or the interior. People just buy honda because of that silver honda symbol thats it but they could get a better car for less money and you can express your selgf with the accent not with the fit.
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Replying to: enka (Apr 22, 2006 8:59 am) I'm sure you already know, being a car afficianado that looks are purely subjective. However, I completely disagree with you on the comment that Honda engineers spent very little time on the car, and I am not just saying this because it has the little "H" symbol on both ends. The attention to detail in the interior is amazing. All the controls are located in logical locations and they feel of high quality. This car is one of the best examples of "utilization of space" I have every seen. The "Magic Seats" and their flexibility and ease of use are a testament to that. At least 10 people have already commented on how "logical" the car feels. That usually doesn't happen when a car is poorly thought out. ...and regarding the "no one looks at you" is another story. I have seen plenty of people turn their heads, make comments (haven't heard many negative ones yet) and come up to talk to me about the car. 1996 Civic dashboard? Tell me, Enka, have you actually seen the Fit or are you just talking? I would suggest you go take the car for a test drive or something because what you are saying most people do about Honda (mesmerized by the "H" logo) is exactly what you are doing about Hyundai. I really don't know much about Hyundai and I haven't seen the new Accent so I am refraining from making dumb comments about it. You should try the same.
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| Sat in the Fit today (Sport, Red, 5AT). VERY upscale interior for a $15k car. I came away very impressed with fluidity of switchgear, roominess, wonderful magic rear seats (makes the car in a class above, IMO) etc. I didn't have time to drive it, but it didn't matter because it was already sold! | |
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Replying to: hungarian83 (Apr 22, 2006 10:41 am) The Hyundai tries, but it feels very "90s" - adequate but cost-cut in a hundred little places. And it just doesn't wear well or handle kids or hauling stuff as well as other cars. Not for long-term use. A 5 year old Kia looks like a Ford - falling apart quickly on the interior if the owner has treated it even the least bit hard. It's exactly like comparing a Lexus to a Buick. The Buick tries, but it's just not a high-end Lexus in fit and finish, or how solid it feels. The Fit is a premium-level small car like the Mini is - so "features" aside, I and many people will pay for the better ride and durability. Plus, the 5-speed on it is inexcuseably poor. My 1975 Volvo 164E with its miserable Borg-Warner 5-speed felt ten times more solid. 30 years later, Hyundai is making *worse* manuals? It's even not as good as a VW Bug's gearbox. 3rd? 5th? Who knows what gear you are in? And you have to live with that gearbox every day. It's not like a poor rear defroster. The thing about the warranty is - Hyundai cuts the warranty in *half* for anoyoen other than the original purchaser. Then subtracts the time used so far. So a one year old Hyundai is 10/2=5-1 year old = 4 years left on the warranty, and half as well on the non-powertrain warranty. A 3 year old Hyundai is essentially a timebomb. 2 years left on the drivetrain, 6 months on the rust, and nothing else. tick...tick..tick... It's the ONLY manufacturer that pulls this "trick", so it's clear that they only do the 10 year "warranty" for marketing purposes. They have no intention of supporting their cars(many are sold to fleets lately) any better than the other manufacturers. The lack of a proper factory certification program from KIA confirms it. Hyundai is: "A warranty of 6 years/75,000 miles from in-service date" That's drivetrain only, and not one thing else. Three years old - means you get 3 years and the remainder of 75K miles on the transmission and engine. It's "transferrable", but who's going to buy a 4-5 year old "certified" Hyundai with 1 year and 10K miles left on it? With a used certified Honda, it could be plainly out of warranty, and yet you get: "Warranty terms are 12 months/12,000 miles Certified Limited Warranty and 7-year/100,000 mile Powertrain Limited Warranty" That's not bad - a one year old Fit - suddenly has a 12/12K extension on the comprehensive warranty and a 7/100K limit on the drivetrain. Much better than the original, actually. Hyundai is um - barely adequate. KIA? You wish. And every person that I have known who owned one - they used that warranty every other month. And the dealers tried hard to keep from claiming anything that wasn't cracked-in-half obvious as a legitimate repair. Why shouldn't they? They're getting flooded with minor fixes and getting nothing back. Sure, it's free - but it's also a pain to waste the time constantly going in for problems and dealing with the repair department. It's like the old VW Bugs - you could fix them yourself, but darn it - you were doing it every other weekend. At some point, you just wanted your life back, no matter now "economical" the car was. |
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