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Chrysler Town & Country: Starting/Stalling/Idling Problems

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1997 T&C Instrument Cluster Trim Removal by screwedbygm
Sep 15, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Hi all,
This may sound like a simple-minded request but the dashboard trim is all plastic and probably becoming extra brittle with age. I need to remove the trim around the instument cluster so as to remove it for the solder repair or replacement so widely discussed in this forum. Since I cannot see any screws, it probably just pries off but I've tried gently in several places with nothing yielding. Can someone please help out by explaining exactly how to pop this trim off without breaking it. Perhaps other members are similarly frustrated also.
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Re: 1997 T&C Instrument Cluster Trim Removal [screwedbygm] by xwesx
Sep 16, 2009 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: screwedbygm (Sep 15, 2009 6:28 pm)

A member posted the process in the "Instrument Cluster" thread. I think I kept a copy of it (I am looking now), but it involves more than just the trim around the cluster. You have to start on the bottom of the dash paneling (below the steering wheel) and work your way up. Indeed, 90% of the work is just removing all of the trim!
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Re: 1997 T&C Instrument Cluster Trim Removal [xwesx] by xwesx
Sep 16, 2009 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Sep 16, 2009 9:21 am)

Well, darn.... I cannot find it. I downloaded a copy of the process information that the member posted, but I cannot remember his handle nor the thread in which it was posted. I did not find it in the Instrument Panel (rather than Cluster) thread.
 
Looking at his photos, though, all of the trim on the driver side of the dash is removed: Under the steering wheel, over it, and the bezel around the instrument cluster that includes the driver side and center air vents.
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Chrysler Town and Country by rcurran1015
Sep 17, 2009 (11:44 am)
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My Chrysler Town and Country is acting funny when I try to start it. It acts like it doesn't want to start but it does. This just started happening recently and I was wondering what the problem would be.
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Re: Chrysler Town and Country [rcurran1015] by xwesx
Sep 17, 2009 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: rcurran1015 (Sep 17, 2009 11:44 am)

More information, such as year, engine, etc., is always helpful....
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Re: Chrysler [mswann1] by crisismp
Sep 22, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: mswann1 (Mar 31, 2007 4:37 pm)

Hi Guys,
I Have a 2005 Town and country v6 3.3 engine and just lately my car start to sputter/bounce around when i hit the gas. It would even let me get up to 30mph. So I changed the spark plugs. while i was changing the spark plugs I noticed that the one in front was burnt and smelled like gas then the last one in the back was also burnt and smelled like gas these 2 where the worst out of all for.So then i took it out for a drive and it was okay 1 day later (today) I went to take it out it was doing the same thing i checked all the spark plugs and the same 2 were burnt and smelled like gas so i bought 2 more new plugs and cabels it didnt fix the problem in fact the 2 news i just put in are burnt already. Does anyone know what i have to do to fix his our are my cylinders going bad on those 2
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Re: Chrysler [crisismp] by xwesx
Sep 22, 2009 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: crisismp (Sep 22, 2009 9:52 am)

I am not sure if you stated this already, but did you replace the plug wires? If not, I recommend doing so. If you have replaced them, the problem is likely in the ignition module. It sounds like poor spark. You should be able to check resistance on both of those items (plug wires and ignition module) with a multimeter.
 
I know what a pain in the neck it is to replace plugs on the 3.3/3.8 V6, so you certainly don't want to have to do it more than necessary!
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Re: Chrysler [crisismp] by crisismp
Sep 22, 2009 (2:34 pm)
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yeah i changed the plug wires i just want to make sure how would i connect the multimeter to test
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Re: Chrysler [crisismp] by xwesx
Sep 22, 2009 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: crisismp (Sep 22, 2009 2:34 pm)

I have not done it myself, but here are the instructions in my Haynes manual. Actually, reading it, it sounds like the ignition coil (not module, as I had said) is likely the culprit because two cylinders (one on each side of the engine) are paired on each coil. As such, you may have one bad coil in the ignition coil. Here goes:
 
On the 3.3L V6 and the 3.8L V6 engines, coil one fires cylinders 1 and 4, coil two fires cylinders 2 and 5, and coil three fires cylinders 3 and 6. Each coil tower is labeled with the number of the corresponding cylinder.
 
1. Disconnect the cable from the negative terminal of the battery.
2. Clearly label the spark plug wires, then detach them from the coil pack.
3. Disconnect the electrical connector from the coil pack.
4. Measure the resistance on the primary side of each coil with a digital ohmmeter. At the coil, connect an ohmmeter between the B+ pin and the pin corresponding to the particular cylinder. Compare your readings with the resistance values listed in this chapter's specifications. Replace the coil if resistance is not within specifications.
5. Measure the secondary resistance of the coil between the paired high tension towers of each group of cylinders. Compare your readings with the resistance values listed in this chapter's specifications. Replace the coil if resistance is not within specifications.
 
And, that's it. Here is some supplemental info and the resistance specification:
 
First, the primary resistance is checked by bridging the pins in the electrical connector. Looking at the ignition coil with the connector oriented toward the bottom, the pins are as follows, left to right:
 
1. Ignition coil cylinders 3 and 6
2. Ignition coil cylinders 1 and 4
3. B+
4. Ignition coil cylinders 2 and 5
 
The location of the cylinders' pins also correspond to the tower location on the pack. With the same orientation, the location of each tower is thus:
 
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Ignition coil resistance specifications:
Primary resistance: 0.45 to 0.65 ohms 70 to 80 degrees F
Secondary resistance: 7,000 to 15,800 ohms 70 to 80 degrees F
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Re: Chrysler [xwesx] by crisismp
Sep 25, 2009 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Sep 22, 2009 6:38 pm)

thanks for the info i ended up changing the ignition coil and it still burned up the spark plugs then i took it to auto zone and they pluged into the ecu to check my check engine and found that my egr and my 6 fuel injector was bad so i changed them both and got another fuel injector since the othe plug was burning still nothing my car is like a roller coaster bouncing all over the place and now some times stalling any other ideas

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