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#501 of 530 Re: Why a TCH? [captvege] by terry92270

Sep 21, 2006 (12:30 pm)

Replying to: captvege (Sep 21, 2006 10:51 am)

 
2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid
Hybrid 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl gas/electric hybrid CVT)
  MSRP Invoice
National Base Price (excludes destination charge) $25,900 $23,310
 
2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid
Hybrid 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl gas/electric hybrid CVT)
What Others
Are Paying
  
  MSRP Invoice
National Base Price
 $25,900 $23,310 $27,925
Regional Adjustment
for Zip Code Change - - $0
Optional Equipment $3,000 $3,172 $3,712
   LA Leather Package $1,300 $1,040 $1,300
   NV Navigation System $1,200 $1,020 $1,200
   CQ Convenience Package $470 $376 $470
   HM Heated Mirrors $30 $24 $30
   -- SET Destination Charge $0 $712 $712
Color Adjustment - - $0
  Desert Sand Mica
  Destination Charge $620 $620 $620
Total with Options $29,520 $27,102 $32,257
 
TOYOTA CAMRY 4 CYL GAS ENGINE XLE:
 
2007 Toyota Camry
XLE 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 5A)
  MSRP Invoice
National Base Price (excludes destination charge)
 $24,700 $21,983
 
2007 Toyota Camry
XLE 4dr Sedan (2.4L 4cyl 5A)
What Others
Are Paying
  
  MSRP Invoice
National Base Price
A note about advertising fees $24,700 $21,983 $24,697
Regional Adjustment
for Zip Code Change - - $0
Optional Equipment $4,120 $3,312 $4,120
   LA Leather Package $1,300 $1,040 $1,300
   NV Navigation System $1,200 $1,020 $1,200
   VS Vehicle Stability Control $650 $520 $650
   Z1 Preferred Premium Accessory Package $475 $325 $475
   HD Heated Front Seats $440 $352 $440
   -- SET Destination Charge $55 $55 $55
   IZ Fleet Convenience Package $0 $0 $0
   FE 50 State Emissions $0 $0 $0
Color Adjustment - - $0
  Desert Sand Mica
  Destination Charge $620 $620 $620
Total with Options $29,440 $25,915 $29,437
 
IMO the $3,300 price difference could be made up in a year, for some two, in gasoline savings alone.
 
Of course some may prefer a USED Lexus over better technology...and a new car. That is whats great about America! Freedom of choice and thought!

#502 of 530 Re: Why a TCH? [captvege] by wvgasguy

Sep 21, 2006 (12:33 pm)

Replying to: captvege (Sep 21, 2006 10:51 am)
You can get a very nice used lexus at that price or less.
 
You can get a very nice "used" Camry for a whole lot less. Most people looking for a new car don't consider a "used" luxury car as an alternative.
 
However remember after tax credits I have less than $24,000 in my NEW Camry that is averaging 39 MPG. If I wanted a used luxury car I'd have kept the Infiniti FX45 that I traded.

#503 of 530 Re: Why a TCH? [wvgasguy] by captvege

Sep 21, 2006 (2:04 pm)

Replying to: wvgasguy (Sep 21, 2006 12:33 pm)
Again, it appears that people are paying $30,000 for a TCH. I understand $24k for a Camry. you can get a very nice new Camry for $24k. Why would someone pay 30k to get a hybrid? Please don't tell me that a new Camry can compare to your infinity

#504 of 530 Re: Why a TCH? [captvege] by terry92270

Sep 21, 2006 (2:16 pm)

Replying to: captvege (Sep 21, 2006 2:04 pm)
Look, you are not "average" and obviously cannot be convinced of the advantages of Hybrids, even though even Consumer Reports recently changed its mind, and says they are cost effective, and pay for themselves.
 
The actual cost of the Hybrid Camry over a "regular" one, comparably equipped, is less than $4,000. All the other costs are for leather, navigation, convinence groups, etc. THOSE ARE THINGS PEOPLE WANT.

#505 of 530 Re: Why a TCH? [captvege] by kdhspyder

Sep 21, 2006 (3:32 pm)

Replying to: captvege (Sep 21, 2006 2:04 pm)
This is a basic question that every buyer must ask themselves.
 
Yes you can get a nice new Camry for $24K but you cannot get all the same features and benefits as in a $30K hybrid Camry.
 
If what you want as a buyer is a nice Camry then by all means the standard version is for you. If you want a version that has all the best features and V6 power and the fuel economy of a Corolla then the TCH is for you. This is one of the best parts of the product strategy. There are so many appealing choices for so many different segments of the market.
 
BTW you can also get a very nice TCH with V6 power and the superior fuel economy for just under $27,000. In fact it's easier to get this trim than the loaded trim.

#506 of 530 Re: Why a TCH? [captvege] by wvgasguy

Sep 21, 2006 (5:08 pm)

Replying to: captvege (Sep 21, 2006 2:04 pm)
Please don't tell me that a new Camry can compare to your infinity
 
I meant to say my Hybrid Camry. Still after now driving it for a while I will say that even without the tax credits I would now be willing to pay more.
 
No my Camry is not as nice as my Infiniti. However I have always traded cars often, a bad habit maybe, but one that millions of other americans also has. A good used luxury car probably is always a better value than a $30,000 new car. Can't argue that. However millions of americans buy new cars every year even though there are millions of used luxury cars available at the same cost. Logical? Probably not. Fact is a lot of people just don't want to drive a car around that is more than three years old. Other fact is that if millions of people didn't buy new cars this economy would hit the dumps. I also traded my lawn mower and my cell phone this year. However my new John Deer is a LOT nicer than my old Husky.
 
I honestly can't win an argument when I agree with you that a used car is a better value. It just about always is. It's just not my way and I can aford new cars so that's what I drive.
 
By the way after 3 BMW's, an Audi and an Infiniti I am happay to get away from high maintenance costs. That's a real waste as well

#508 of 530 A $30K Camry?? by scsilv

Sep 21, 2006 (8:41 pm)

I got a loaded TCH last week.
 
I waited 4 months at my local dealer, who called me twice to say a red one was coming, but stated some other dealer had spoken for it a few days later.
 
I bought the TCH from a second dealer. They located one a few days after I got in line. From then, took four weeks to arrive at the dealership. It sounds like Toyota dealers will do anything to secure one of these vehicles. Both offered MSRP for it--no markup.
 
My father owns a Lexus 430, 2000 I think, and I have driven it quite a bit. While the leather is a bit comfier, and the engine a bit peppier up steep hills, and the trunk a bit bigger, the TCH has quite a few advantages: around 15 MPG, a better stereo system, bluetooth, quieter at low speeds. Even for a Lexus driver, the TCH is impressive. Most impressive of all, the TCH teaches you how to drive efficiently--a paradigm shift for a man driving 20K miles a year. I see the road, and getting from place to place, in a whole new way.
 
Bet you can get one near invoice next spring, when the Kentucky plant will be in full production, and other mid-sized sedans (Saturn Aura, Nissan Altima) may come in hybrid drive trains.

#509 of 530 Re: Why a TCH? [captvege] by mfletou1

Sep 21, 2006 (9:09 pm)

Replying to: captvege (Sep 21, 2006 2:04 pm)
What is this $30k TCH you're talking about? You don't need to spend that to get a TCH. If you want one with absolutely every option known to man, sure, but hey, the Accord Hybrid which is quite frankly not up to the TCH standard stickers for $31 at that level.
 
You have to understand that the standard equipment level of a TCH is almost equivalent to XLE on a regular Camry. Every single TCH has an upgraded 440 watt JBL 6 disc/mp3 stereo system, standard bluetooth, standard auto dual climate, etc. On my car, I added a sunroof and mirror package. I paid $26500, NOT including a $2600 rebate. So I too am paying $24k. Really not anymore than a "regular" Camry equipped the same way would be---only I'm getting 35 mpg on a car that I'm fairly certain won't depreciate much.
 
If you want leather, nav system, etc, sure, you may be looking at close to $30k, but that's true for every midsize car with that level of equipment.

#510 of 530 Re: Why a TCH? [mfletou1] by terry92270

Sep 21, 2006 (10:24 pm)

Replying to: mfletou1 (Sep 21, 2006 9:09 pm)
Exactly, mfletou1, exactly.

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