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I ordered a Mag grey TCH base model on July 3rd. Put down my deposit but my dealer says he does not think it will be here before Sept. 30th. When should he be providing order status updates ie: when the order was placed, when it goes in to production, etc... Just curious cause reading some of the posts it sounds like people are geeting their alot quicker than 12 weeks. Thanks
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The following is a brief summary of my buying experience (March - June) of a silver -- fully loaded -- (Nav, Moonroof, Leather, Comfort and Convenience Package and mats ) Camry Hybrid. I had the opportunity to visit ten dealerships in three states (GA, AZ, and MD) plus have internet discussions with dealerships in MI, Il, and VA. The approaches, comments, and levels of service varied widely. I placed orders at three dealerships. Two required a deposit of $500 (and did not process) and one of $1000 (and did process). One order was placed in March and two in early April. My local dealership (Sandy Springs Toyota) in Atlanta (from whom I had purchased 4 Toyotas in the last 4 years) was not interested in talking. As I later learned, four dealerships (Marietta, Atlanta, Toyota Mall of GA, and Sandy Springs) in Atlanta all had the similar approaches! "We will sell our cars for the maximum possible." A loaded TCH was offered at anywhere from $1000 - $5000 above MSRP --not to mentioned the extras (most of little to no value) that came from their distributor in Florida. In Phoenix, I visited Wright Toyota. Though polite, the offer --MSRP + $3,500. The "closer", who offered the deal, looked and acted like a "closer". The salesman must have been the good cop and the "closer" the bad cop. Later the I was told by the salesman, let him "the closer" talk -- but don't budge -- he'll become more reasonable in time. In MD I dealt with two dealerships. Darcars of Silver Spring offered a fully loaded TCH (in April) for MSRP + $100 + $19 (temp tags to get me back to Ga) Tax and title would be paid by me when I return to GA. When the car arrived, I would fly to BWI. They would pick me up, and I would drive home. Down payment $1000 (which they took and processed). Bottom line -- no car ever appeared. It was to come in and be delivered in early June. As I was about to depart for MD, they called and said something happened to the car -- would I like to re-order. I said, "No, please refund my money." The next day (after figuring how to get to MD again) I called about the car. I was told it had been sold and was gone. After repeated calls and almost two weeks -- my $1000 was returned!!!! In March (after reading about the dealership in this forum) I ordered (over the internet) a silver -- fully loaded TCH -- from Fitzmall in Gaithersburg. The agreed price (in March) was MSRP + $19. (Deposit of $500 - which was never processed). At the time of my order, I was told to expect the car in the July to August time frame (They already had a list of 23 people wanting a TCH). Further, if you find a better deal in the meantime or someone else can come up with a car sooner -- feel free to take it. Your deposit will be refunded. Shortly after the debacle at Darcars, I heard from Fitzmall. The car I wanted was "in bound" -- soon to arrive in New Jersey. We settled on a delivery date. On 16 June, the salesman (super guy) delivered my car at Reagan National Airport in DC. We spent 15 minutes in seats in front of the Delta ticket counter -- completed all paperwork. Then we walked out to the parking garage -- looked over the car for another 15 minutes (yes, my salesman covered everything that needed to be done). He handed me all the paperwork and the FOB for the car. Then he handed me the parking ticket and $5 to depart. I paid MSRP + $19. That was it. When I returned to GA, I paid the fees for GA sales tax and tags. Lessons Learned: 1. Do your homework! It pays off!!! 2. There are good dealers and sales persons. (Fitzmall and a person at Sandy Springs who did try to get the right price for me) 3. Look at the "out the door price". Doc fees and special add-on fees (premiums) is where dealers can turn what appears to be a good deal into a terrible one. 4. Refuse to pay huge mark -ups. If everyone refuses, dealers will have to keep the cars on their lots forever or lower the price. In the end the customer does have the final say. 5. FITZMALL of Gaithersburg is the "gold standard" for dealerships. If you can get there to buy a car -- Go. The internet process is refined and the service is excellent. 6. Even if you can't get to Fitzmall --check out their prices. They are a good reference for anyone buying a Toyota. You may be able to use their price points as a good bargaining tool. Remember -- "it's the "out the door" price that counts. As for my TCH -- GREAT. Gas mileage in Atlanta (35-36) and on the highway (38 - 40). Fitzmall did a great job on prep. The ride from DC to Atlanta was a real pleasure. My TCH replaced a 2005 Lexus ES330 -- which I sold myself in 3 days. I could not be happier. The blue glow of excellence is tough to beat!!!!! One final thought -- someone may ask, "Why buy a Toyota in the Southeast US?" One advantage of buying in the SE is that you can "special order" a car with features somewhat out of the norm -- within reason. For example, a TCH with Nav without moonroof. Sandy Springs Toyota in Atlanta does a pretty good job of this and is quite helpful. Be prepared to wait 90 to 120 days -- particularly if the car comes from Japan. If the car is manufactured in the US times are much shorter (30 - 45 days -- depending on the features ordered)
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Replying to: cxhoffma (Jul 21, 2006 3:17 pm) They said (that's the price for hybrids.) We went to Elmhurst Toyota and saw our first Camry Hybrid say no more, we bought from Elmhurst, and will recomend them to everyone from now on. I am still very upset about this and can't wait for the next toyota survey to arrive. My mom is shopping now I've steered her away from the Pirates! |
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Replying to: fullofbeans (Apr 25, 2006 6:53 am) Guy by the name of Barry Thomas. I live in Ottawa and he made a trip to meet me half way in Kingston to look at mt Accord trade. He will also save me a trip to tortonto to pick it up. Also in Kingston. Good price and easy to deal with. Tell him Keith turner recommended him. Won't help me since I already have a deal but he seems straight and has satisfied me with our dealings. |
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Replying to: stinkpot1 (Jul 29, 2006 8:50 pm) |
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Replying to: consumer46 (Jul 30, 2006 6:17 am) |
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Is $30,000 before TTL a fair price for ordering a 2007 Toyota Camry HV (Hybrid Vehicle) with the below options???: CQ (Convenience Pkg) SR (Moon Roof) CF (Carpet Mats and Trunk Mats) MG3 (Color-keyed Mud Guards) NV (Navigation System) LA (Seat Trim Leather Surfaced) WL (Wheel Locks) I have to wait though 3-4 months, since it will be built and shipped from JAPAN...
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Replying to: agnosto (Aug 11, 2006 8:21 am) I paid MSRP of $30,784, for mine, no wheel locks, but it has body side moldings. ($199) (Also got $1,000 more for my trade than I was told to expect in the "Real World Trade-in-Values" forum.) Good luck and hope the wait isn't too tough! |
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Replying to: jbollt (Aug 11, 2006 8:28 am) Sale price: $30,000 Tag/License: $74.00 Doc. Fee: $99.00 Not sure about KBB's MSRP...
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Replying to: agnosto (Aug 11, 2006 8:55 am) Mine: 25,900+ CQ: 470 LA: 1300 NV: 1200 SR: 940 CF: 199 BM:(Body moldings)195 Delivery 580 Total 30,784 |
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