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Replying to: spiff72 (Jun 12, 2006 5:12 pm) |
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Replying to: orgal (Jun 12, 2006 8:23 pm)
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Replying to: ozarkgolfer (Jun 12, 2006 8:46 pm) |
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Replying to: orgal (Jun 12, 2006 8:23 pm) First off, what are you calling "Blue Book" price. Kelly's has a trade in, a private party and a retail blue book price. On the "trade in" blue book price they also have a condition variable and a lot of dealers around here want to use the fair or good price, never the excellent price. You can look this price up yourself, although there seems to be a book for dealers and a book for consumers. Anyway, look just before you go as the numbers do change. IF the national market is hit because of gas prices that should be reflected in the book price or the going rate. For them to discount it because of gas prices has nothing to do with the book price. People still want good used SUV's and around here $2000 buys you junk. The disadvantage I have in WV is we pay taxes on the difference in trade. The dealers know that so you have to deal with that issue. However the advantage to this also is when you have a nice ride and dealer is honest, then in my example I traded in an Infiniti FX45 and I got the private party price (considerably higher than trade in pricing) and in effect traded for my loaded TCH for $500, thus my taxes on the deal were only $25. (5% of the difference). Had I wanted to sell my vehicle outright I would have had to sold it for more than $1500 more than the dealer offered just to break even. I got this price against a $589 discount on my TCH ($30589 MSRP)no addons or markups by the dealer
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Jun 13, 2006 5:45 am) That is the same with CA car dealers. The only time they use the excellent price is when they are selling to you. And SUVs are still selling well. Especially the small ones. The RAV4 is Toyotas biggest gainer in sales. |
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I am in the incredibly fortunate position of anticipating delivery of my TCH in just a few hours, AND having another dealer call today to say they expect an identical one to arrive tomorrow or the next day (it's in ground status). Someone please go buy this loaded Desert Sand with nav from Vince at Richmond Toyota in southeast Indiana (just west of Dayton Ohio). He has been very decent and very communicative for the several months he has had my deposit. He has even told callers in the last two days that the car was reserved for me even though I told him last Wednesday I thought the other car would come in first. When I heard today that my TCH would be delivered to me tonight, I called Vince back to say thanks but sell it to someone else. He was very professional about that too. Counting the minutes....... !!
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Replying to: balithai (Jun 12, 2006 8:19 pm) I purchased my car in southern California and have a Mag. Gray with bisque leather.......so it certainly is available.
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Replying to: orgal (Jun 12, 2006 8:23 pm) This is a really key point, orgal. If people understood it there would sure be a lot less stress in the 'discussions'. Simply put there is a retail market price for any vehicle from about $500 to $50000+. For used vehicles kbb and Edmunds are good guides and are pretty close to the market. The retail sales price is what it is, say $4000 as in your case. You might hold out for a higher price, say $6000, but used vehicles aren't like wine they age quickly ( very quickly, see below ). There is about a $2000-4000 difference between the retail price of a used vehicle and the trade-in value. Simply put whoever does the work to sell the vehicle should 'earn' this difference. If you sell it you should make the $3000, if the dealer sells it he should make the $3000. That's basic capitalism. Most people understand this when it's explained clearly without emotion. Current market conditions: ( your Explorer for example ) A client had a very nice GMC SUV that he could trade back in April but it had high miles. He opted to try to sell it himself since our trade-in offer was $17000 and he thought he could get about $20000 for it. We guaranteed the trade-in value through 4-30. Last week he asked us to buy it from him outright since he didn't have any firm offers and the 'trade-in' values ranged from $11500 to $13500. Gas price and a glut of people dumping their SUV's for Corollas, Civics, etc. killing the value of most large SUV's. |
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Replying to: kathyinca (Jun 13, 2006 8:06 pm) |
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A Barcelona Red in Tacoma listed on craigslist by a dealer. I have no business relationship with this person. ">link title Tacoma WA TCH
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