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Ebayer tick me off sometimes... by spiff72
Jun 12, 2006 (5:12 pm)
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I have been trolling ebay to see what kind of TCH's are showing up there, and I stumbled upon this one:
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Camry-HYBRID-2007-CAMRY-HYBRID-BLUE-RIBBON- -MET-ASH-LEATHER-NAVI_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6017QQihZ002QQitemZ4647410782QQ- rdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
 
It made me grumpy. This is the exact car I want, in one of the two colors I want (gray or blue), the bid is currently at $33,750, and this hasn't met the reserve price.
 
The sticker price (he states it clearly in the auction) is $30,589. That is a $3,161 markup, and even that isn't enough!
 
 
 
I had to chuckle at the description of the car and his reasoning for the markup...
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CA TCH's .... [tomjc] by balithai
Jun 12, 2006 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: tomjc (Jun 11, 2006 8:44 am)

tomjic wrote: -I have two deposits on the mag gray, one is due to arrive at the end of the week at a California dealer. -
 
Wow, I just logged back in after a vacation - lots of folks getting their cars!
 
tomjc - whats on your mag grey TCH? I'm in N. CA and still getting told by my local dealer that mag grey with bisque leather is not available in CA. If that's what you ordered and you change your mind on the car - let me know! Maybe my dealer can work a trade! LOL!!
 
And kathyinca -- was your "mag grey with bisque" leather? I am trying to figure out how to work with this dealer and still get the car I want!
 
Anyone have anyone they can recommed in N. CA to work with?
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Re: Vague Info [ozarkgolfer] by orgal
Jun 12, 2006 (8:23 pm)
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Replying to: ozarkgolfer (Jun 12, 2006 11:09 am)

I don't know if this makes a difference in your case, but...
 
I just bought my TCH last Thursday. I brought in my 95 Explorer to the dealer to check on trade in value. Blue book said $4000, the dealer offered $2000 (said the car was in great shape, but the price was low because of the high cost of gas). I just sold it for $3900 less than 24 hours after posting on Craig's list.
 
Why trade in your car when you know that you'll get less than you could by selling it yourself?
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Re: Ebayer tick me off sometimes... [spiff72] by ozarkgolfer
Jun 12, 2006 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: spiff72 (Jun 12, 2006 5:12 pm)

I bet that is a shill bid for the seller.
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Re: Vague Info [orgal] by ozarkgolfer
Jun 12, 2006 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: orgal (Jun 12, 2006 8:23 pm)

I did have the Explorer listed on cars.com and had zero calls on it for $1000 more than the dealer bought it in for. In the end, I was happy with the trade in dollars I got for my Explorer and avoided the hassle time between selling my old car and waiting for the new one to come in OR buy the new one and have the old one sitting here costing me money whilst I wait to sell it. I owned the Explorer and wanted to pay the difference in cash between it and the TCH and not have to deal with a loan.
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Re: Vague Info [ozarkgolfer] by orgal
Jun 12, 2006 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: ozarkgolfer (Jun 12, 2006 8:46 pm)

sounds like a great deal for you... Its good to know that happens!
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Re: Vague Info [orgal] by wvgasguy
Jun 13, 2006 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: orgal (Jun 12, 2006 8:23 pm)

Blue book said $4000, the dealer offered $2000 (said the car was in great shape, but the price was low because of the high cost of gas
 
First off, what are you calling "Blue Book" price. Kelly's has a trade in, a private party and a retail blue book price. On the "trade in" blue book price they also have a condition variable and a lot of dealers around here want to use the fair or good price, never the excellent price. You can look this price up yourself, although there seems to be a book for dealers and a book for consumers. Anyway, look just before you go as the numbers do change. IF the national market is hit because of gas prices that should be reflected in the book price or the going rate. For them to discount it because of gas prices has nothing to do with the book price. People still want good used SUV's and around here $2000 buys you junk.
 
The disadvantage I have in WV is we pay taxes on the difference in trade. The dealers know that so you have to deal with that issue.
 
However the advantage to this also is when you have a nice ride and dealer is honest, then in my example I traded in an Infiniti FX45 and I got the private party price (considerably higher than trade in pricing) and in effect traded for my loaded TCH for $500, thus my taxes on the deal were only $25. (5% of the difference). Had I wanted to sell my vehicle outright I would have had to sold it for more than $1500 more than the dealer offered just to break even. I got this price against a $589 discount on my TCH ($30589 MSRP)no addons or markups by the dealer
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Re: Vague Info [wvgasguy] by gagrice
Jun 13, 2006 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Jun 13, 2006 5:45 am)

want to use the fair or good price, never the excellent price.
 
That is the same with CA car dealers. The only time they use the excellent price is when they are selling to you.
 
And SUVs are still selling well. Especially the small ones. The RAV4 is Toyotas biggest gainer in sales.
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Loaded Desert Sand available so. Indiana by anniemfuse
Jun 13, 2006 (4:53 pm)
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I am in the incredibly fortunate position of anticipating delivery of my TCH in just a few hours, AND having another dealer call today to say they expect an identical one to arrive tomorrow or the next day (it's in ground status). Someone please go buy this loaded Desert Sand with nav from Vince at Richmond Toyota in southeast Indiana (just west of Dayton Ohio). He has been very decent and very communicative for the several months he has had my deposit. He has even told callers in the last two days that the car was reserved for me even though I told him last Wednesday I thought the other car would come in first. When I heard today that my TCH would be delivered to me tonight, I called Vince back to say thanks but sell it to someone else. He was very professional about that too.
 
Counting the minutes....... !!
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Re: CA TCH's .... [balithai] by kathyinca
Jun 13, 2006 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: balithai (Jun 12, 2006 8:19 pm)

Hi,
I purchased my car in southern California and have a Mag. Gray with bisque leather.......so it certainly is available.

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