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Re: So close, but yet so far..... [tomjc] by ozarkgolfer
Jun 11, 2006 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: tomjc (Jun 10, 2006 7:36 pm)

Mag gray is very classy and unlike one or two others, I'm keeping my hybrid badges on the car.
 
First drive thoughts....smooth, excellent pickup and and it's amazing to feel the gentle pulse when the engine shuts off and you glide on electric power!
 
Truck is small after hopping out of Explorer, but I have an aerodynamic top box for the times I need to travel out of state with the kids on golf trips. Other times it looks like it can easily accomodate our clubs.
 
ETA at the dealership is 8am on Monday morning!!
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Re: So close, but yet so far..... [ozarkgolfer] by tomjc
Jun 11, 2006 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: ozarkgolfer (Jun 11, 2006 6:25 am)

ozarkgolfer, thanks for the excellent report. Sounds like your in the final stretch to having that baby parked in your garage.
 
I have two deposits on the mag gray, one is due to arrive at the end of the week at a California dealer. I live in New Mexico where sales tax on autos is around 3% , and 0% on hybrids. If I take delivery of this car in Ca. I’ll be hit with a 8% use tax since I have to drive on Ca. streets to get it back home. So they may be able to transport the car to Reno, NV for a few hundred dollars where I can take delivery and avoid driving it in Ca. Otherwise, there’s a 4 month wait at my local dealer where I’m 15th on a wait list.
 
Enjoy!
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Re: Oh the torture.... [njerald] by kdhspyder
Jun 11, 2006 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: njerald (Jun 10, 2006 6:17 pm)

In all Toyota's I've had when the warning light comes on - or the trip meter goes to zero in the case of a Chrysler LHS - there is about 2-3 gal left in the tank as a reserve. It's been like this since the late 80's. The trip meter since the the mid-90's.
 
With my four previous 4c Camry's I could drive about 70 miles with the light on ( have done it once as a test and twice because I was in a hurry ).
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Re: Vague Info [umpire63] by anniemfuse
Jun 11, 2006 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: umpire63 (Jun 11, 2006 4:47 am)

This is frustrating, isn't it? This is what I have learned so far.
 
1) Each region is different. Some have info online about actual inventory e.g. SET (southeast territory). Others don't, like my region (Ohio-Michigan-Kentcuky-Tennessee). The ports are different for the different regions and the time in F status and G status is different in different regions.
 
2) Each dealership operates differently. More importantly, salesman at each dealership operate differently. Some openly share some of what they know. Some don't share. Some don't know. Many salesman don't even know some of the information shared openly here such as what percent of their regions TCHs come with Package 1, Package 2, and Package 3. I have had salesmen tell me that "Georgetown isn't making the TCH very fast right now" [not true; all TCHs come from Japan until Georgetown starts TCH production in ~November]. Usually the sales manager has a lot more info than the salesman. Probably from a sales perspective, you don't want to give away all the secrets and you want to avoid setting high customer expectations when there are a number of factors beyond your control. It's better to tell someone their car is here early than it's coming later than expected. And these guys are trying to keep up on 14 models simultaneously, not just the Camry, let alone the TCH. They also don't know how avidly you want the TCH or whether you might be convinced down the line to take a car with different options or color.
 
I think the only way to deal with all of this as a customer is to inform yourself as fully as you can (and want to). Sometimes a salesman will open up more when they realize you have a little bit of "insider" information. We are very fortunate to have the sharing of information here. The other thing seems to be to try to figure out who is giving you the straightest story and reward that behavior by being straight with them and buying from them unless they just can't deliver what you want at the right price in the right timeframe.
 
I too am awaiting anxiously for my TCH. I think my current 1993 Camry knows I am about leave our relationship. I've had three service visits to the tune of $420 in the last 12 days. I'd like to not have any more before selling it.
 
How do I get [port date, F or G status, etc] ?
 
As njerald would tersely reply, ask your dealer.
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Re: Oh the torture.... [njerald] by kdhspyder by wvgasguy
Jun 11, 2006 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 11, 2006 9:05 am)

In all Toyota's I've had when the warning light comes on - or the trip meter goes to zero in the case of a Chrysler LHS - there is about 2-3 gal left in the tank as a reserve.
 
My biggest concern is does the tank only hold 17 gallons if you take time to keep squeezing gas in, in other words is it full when it kicks off. It seems to kick off and I only get a couple of tenths in while topping it off so that you should assume it's full (17 gallons). However on my company Ford Explorer, when the nozzle kicks off I can actully squeeze (very slowly and short bursts) 4.3 gallons more in the tank. That's the only way to get it full, up to what the rated capacity is. It's been like that since new (81,000 miles)
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Re: Oh the torture.... [njerald] by kdhspyder [wvgasguy] by ozarkgolfer
Jun 11, 2006 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (Jun 11, 2006 12:37 pm)

My 04 Explorer is supposed to have a 21 gallon gas tank. I routinely drive it 20 miles (a little more than a gallon of gas) past '0' miles to empty. I can then put in 21.8 gallons!!!!
 
Looks odds on that I'll trade it in on the 07 TCH tomorrow morning so the game starts anew!
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Re: Vague Info [anniemfuse] by umpire63
Jun 12, 2006 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: anniemfuse (Jun 11, 2006 10:51 am)

anniemfuse,
 
Thanks for the response. At both dealerships with whom I am working (in the Midwest), the salespeople know very little. At both they believe the car is already manufactured in the states, and on has twice said they had a TCH they could trade with another dealer for the style I want, but that turned out to be false.
 
It IS frustrating!
 
And like you, I think my '02 Avalon knows it's about time. It needs new tires, and I hope my TCH comes before I have to put them on!
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Re: Vague Info [umpire63] by ozarkgolfer
Jun 12, 2006 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: umpire63 (Jun 12, 2006 6:10 am)

My 04 Explorer needed tires a month into my order for the TCH and I just could not drive on bald ones and have good feelings selling it that way. I also knew the dealer would target the tires as a price lowering area. New 16" rubber was $120 a tire. Ugh!
 
My local tire dealer had four "take-offs" that were only about 20% used and I paid $120 all inclusive.
 
Just picked up my TCH this morning. I am extremely pleased so far.
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Re: Vague Info [ozarkgolfer] by umpire63
Jun 12, 2006 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: ozarkgolfer (Jun 12, 2006 11:09 am)

My local tire dealer had four "take-offs" that were only about 20% used and I paid $120 all inclusive.
 
I'm afraid I will have to do this, also. I know I'll take a hit on the tires, but even considering that, I will be ahead on the trade. I just hate to put any more money in it, but I may have to.
 
Oh, well!
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Re: Vague Info [umpire63] by wvgasguy
Jun 12, 2006 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: umpire63 (Jun 12, 2006 11:46 am)

You can probably buy a set of tires and wheels on eBay for your Expo for less than what you're paying for tires. I've done this for my 350Z, (2) F150's and my Expedition.

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