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Re: You dealer-types are [robertkn] by tjw1308
Aug 10, 2006 (9:25 pm)
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Replying to: robertkn (Aug 10, 2006 9:14 pm)

Swear on a stack of Bibles it's the truth
 
Invoice/discount buyers are just wired differently. I completely understand the apartment scenario, because most of the "shlups" out there love their Toyota's very much.
 
BTW, I don't think paying MSRP for a car that just doesn't have much markup makes us "shlups".
 
The Yaris is worth every penny of MSRP. I am amazed at how enamoured I am with it (and I have a feeling I'll be selling a lot of them... especially now that I have a credible angle being an owner myself hehe...)
 
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Re: Dealer stringing me along? [tjw1308] by robertkn
Aug 10, 2006 (9:30 pm)
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Replying to: tjw1308 (Aug 10, 2006 9:13 pm)

You know, I'm not sure whether they were part of any package, but you could add them as individual options. I think that's why my salesman thought it seemed like a reasonable order. It wasn't like I was trying to "cross match" things from different packages or anything. I just picked two stock packages and the 2 individual safety options.
 
So, who installs the "port installed" options then, the dealer?
 
Thanks for the offer. For the moment I'm 3 weeks into this, so I'm going to hang in there with my "guy." I really, really, really want this car the way I ordered it. If it comes through I'll be a very happy camper. But, if things get ridiculous I'll probably just look for a used Civic and take my time waiting for just the right Yaris.
 
Don't put too much weight on my "shulp" comment. I didn't mean it in a desparaging way, just as kind of a light hearted figure of speech for a customer buying a low markup item as opposed to a "high roller" buying a big ticket item with lot's of juicy profit built in. (Feel free to exclude yourself from the Shlup Sample Group at any time. )
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Re: Dealer stringing me along? [robertkn] by tjw1308
Aug 10, 2006 (9:55 pm)
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Replying to: robertkn (Aug 10, 2006 9:30 pm)

Toyota installs them before/after they hit the port, but not at the factory (if that makes sense?). Usually little stuff like cargo nets, mats, armrests, bumper guards, stuff like that. Anything actually on the MSRP label never has anything to do with the dealer. Don't mix that up with "toyoguard" though. That is NOT on the MSRP it is on what is called an addendum label.
 
A good example of what you can't do on a Yaris right now would be what happened with my car. I would have liked the power package. It is an option offered by Toyota, but it cannot be added without ALSO adding Side Air Bags and ABS (which I don't want) in my region. That's the Package C option, I got package B.
 
Check out the main Toyota website, enter your ZIP, and download the Yaris PDF brochure. It will tell you what configurations (i.e. package A, B, C) are being shipped to your region for a specific model type Yaris.
 
If one fits, you're in luck. Otherwise, you'd better start looking outside the region.
 
Again, the profit from my deal even at MSRP definitely makes me a "shlup" of sorts, so no worries (I didn't whine about the mats/bumper guard either though... )
 
I don't sell enough of these big profit Yari (insert smirk here) to be a high roller...
 
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Re: Dealer stringing me along? [tjw1308] by robertkn
Aug 11, 2006 (3:43 am)
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Replying to: tjw1308 (Aug 10, 2006 9:55 pm)

Toyota installs them before/after they hit the port, but not at the factory (if that makes sense?). Usually little stuff like cargo nets, mats, armrests, bumper guards, stuff like that.
I think I get it. I'm visualizing a little guy who looks like Quasimodo scampering around through the fog and sea mist on a ship approaching the U.S. coast line. He is pushing a shopping cart full of Toyota accessories laughing maniacly every time he sticks one on a car. Is it kind of like that?
 
Anything actually on the MSRP label never has anything to do with the dealer. Don't mix that up with "toyoguard" though. That is NOT on the MSRP it is on what is called an addendum label.
That must explain why my "guy" wrote "subject to sticker" on my order. He said it was because some of the prices might go up or down in the meantime. Maybe it means he doesn't know how generous a mood Quasi will be in. I didn't know whether the dealer could tack on some stuff and then reprint the sticker with their add-ons on it.
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I think by nippononly
Aug 11, 2006 (6:29 am)
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if you want a real loaded Yaris, you will have to wait a while until the next-gen Corolla arrives. In the meantime, they are building mostly really cheap Yarii, so that the two models don't eat each other alive (what with the heavy discounting now going on routinely with Corolla sales).
 
In my region, if I want a 5-speed, you know what I can get? Package A or B - both cost $0 and include NO options (just 50 state emissions)!
 
Seriously, they aren't even building ones with the convenience package right now, which they were before. When I first read about this new model, I was kinda thinking of getting a liftback with all the trimmings (yes, I know it would come to like $16K, but I think it's cute and I want a hatchback), but boy did I get an education when I asked dealers about them! No matter what the option package, dealers state (and my own observations back this up) that all their liftbacks sell within 48 hours. So the customer who wants something different from the rest is definitely going to get lost in the shuffle for the next year or so. By then the current Corolla will begin to wind down I think, and the initial new-model rush on Yarii will be slowing a little too, hopefully.
 
Maybe then I will go back and look up a liftback with power package with alloys, SAB and ABS, and keyless. Still have to figure out how to get cruise though...
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Re: I think [nippononly] by beantown
Aug 11, 2006 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 11, 2006 6:29 am)

if you want a real loaded Yaris, you will have to wait a while until the next-gen Corolla arrives. In the meantime, they are building mostly really cheap Yarii, so that the two models don't eat each other alive (what with the heavy discounting now going on routinely with Corolla sales).
 
Sad part is, even the stripped Yarii around here are selling for higher prices ($12-$13K) than the Corolla CEs($10,500-$12,000).
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order and delivery time by rocketman10
Aug 11, 2006 (6:59 am)
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I ordered my Blazing Blue Automatic Liftback on May 20th and it arrived July 6th. I ordered it with the All Weather Package and Convenience Package and floor mats. I didn't order it with the bumber guard and armrest but it was delivered with those. I don't mind them and the bumper guard will be useful so the bumper doesn't scratch as you put things in the back. The arm rest is comfortable. I had test driven a Liftback on May 13th..I should have purchased it on the spot (it didn't have the armrest but had the bumper guard, I think). I figured it was the demo model and I didn't want to buy the demo. (It turns out someone did the same did...duh on my part...since I could have saved 2 months..but then I didn't think there would that long of a wait..live and learn and I hadn't test drove the Honda Fit..I gave up that idea when I read the gas tank under the driver's feet..no thanks..I don't need to go up in flames if the car gets hit badly) I also thought that the Manager was giving me a line that they don't make the Liftback with ABS....little did I know he wasn't....I ended up doing a lot of research, for which Edmunds proved the best resource, and the forums here....and discovered you have to check what each region was offering as far as packages...I didn't help that when entered my zip code..sometimes Toyota's web site showed you could get ABS and power windows and other times it only showed that you could get the All Weater Package and Convenience Package...that left me befuddled and confused...I finally figured out that's all it comes in for this region (NY/NJ) Edmunds ended up being the better source then Toyota's own web site. In any event, I only wish I had taken the vehicle I test drove (also Blazing Blue..but I am very happy with my Yaris Liftback in Blazing Blue that I ordered...its a great car and I am very happy with it:) So far with 3 tanks of gas I am still averaging around 42 mpg....can't complain one bit with that:)
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Re: Dealer stringing me along? [robertkn] by tjw1308
Aug 11, 2006 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: robertkn (Aug 11, 2006 3:43 am)

Pretty much, although the Quasimodo people already have their marching orders from Toyota as to what to put on (It's already on the MSRP).
 
Actually, I think I would have liked the little guy to put on an armrest for me, but oh well.
 
Also, the people above make a GREAT point about the outgoing Corolla. It is most definitely part of the reason we aren't getting "loaded" Yari yet.
 
If you think about it, it's brilliant marketing because when the new Corolla finally hits, it WON'T be discounted and will be hyped and hot for a while...
 
The Yaris will become what we in the business call a "switch" car for people who can't quite step up to the non-discounted all-new Corolla.
 
I'll still love my lil hatch though
 
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Re: Dealer stringing me along? [lhanson] by lucynethel
Aug 11, 2006 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: lhanson (Aug 10, 2006 12:27 pm)

When I bought mine, the VIN showed it was manufactured just 2 weeks before I bought it here in San Diego! Takj about "fresh"....
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Re: I think [beantown] by nippononly
Aug 11, 2006 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: beantown (Aug 11, 2006 6:40 am)

Yeah, but have you driven a Corolla CE lately? If you are looking for any fun at all in the drive, the Yaris is SO MUCH the better choice. More direct road feel, better steering and handling, better looks, breakaway mirrors, more sophisticated switches for the HVAC, and an MP3 jack. If you go with a base Yaris with convenience package, that is. Which should run you around $13K in an automatic liftback, $14K sedan. Or about $700 more than you could get the comparable Corolla CE. I don't know about you, but I will go the extra $700 to have all those pluses and a car that isn't everywhere as Corolla is, at every stoplight, in every parking lot and driveway....
 
Now I base that on prices in my area (Bay Area, CA). I find it hard to believe that Corolla CEs are going for $10,5 in other parts of the country, but you're not the first one to mention that number and I won't deny it. If so, they are selling at $2000 or more under invoice? That is surprising. But it certainly reinforces my original point: the Yarii will stay stripped until the new Corolla comes. Then we will finally see them build some with the full complement of what they SAY is available on this model. I look forward to that. Maybe even to a small discount below sticker, as Toyota makes some incentives available to its dealers, eh?!

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