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Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry

165 messages, Last post on Feb 01, 2008 at 6:35 PM

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What is this discussion about? Acura TL, Toyota Camry, Sedan

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#96 of 165 Re: Drove the SE today [cecilt1] by mexox Jun 14, 2006 (2:42 pm)
Replying to: cecilt1 (Jun 10, 2006 3:18 pm) cecil, I have to agree with you on the interior of the camry. I was looking into getting the 07 XLE v6 but the diarrhea yellow wood trim sickened me. Who is their decorator? The color scheme is all wrong. The center control cluster...OMG!!! what were they thinking!!! Replies to this message: eseir (Jun 15, 2006 7:18 am) tedescm1 (Jun 15, 2006 8:02 am) laurasdada (Jun 15, 2006 8:57 am) and 1 more...
#97 of 165 Re: Drove the SE today [mexox] by eseir Jun 15, 2006 (7:18 am)
Replying to: mexox (Jun 14, 2006 2:42 pm) Again, The Camry has alway had a great reputation for being a a grat car. Toyota makes a great product. THese car has always been sold at a discount. They have done a great job in redesigning the car and I think it looks great on the outside. Perhaps, the front part might be questionable (IMHO), but the interior does not compare to a TL or an ES thus the price difference. A brand New TL without Nav can be bought for about $30,500 whereas a loaded SE or a similar feautured SE is being sold for $28,000. For the price, I will take a TL anyday because I think it offer more and yes more value. The service at Acura is better than at Toyota. You will get the PRemium service a better warranty and a nicer interior (outside is subjective) than an SE (by far). Now, is the TL a better car. Not necessarily, but I have to say that the TL is best $30K in marketplace today. Once, the new Altima and Accord come out, these SEs will be selling at a discount. Right now there is absolutely nothing to think about. But once the SE comes down to the $25,000 range, then there will be plenty to think about, because there will be a larger difference. I see many people saying that their Camry is just a cheaper LExus. Right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Replies to this message: tedescm1 (Jun 15, 2006 8:02 am) laurasdada (Jun 15, 2006 8:57 am) ggesq (Jun 16, 2006 7:03 pm)
#98 of 165 Re: Drove the SE today [eseir] by tedescm1 Jun 15, 2006 (8:02 am)
Replying to: eseir (Jun 15, 2006 7:18 am) The tl's interior (and exterior) are better than the Camry, but the TL’s plagued with rattles and other noises (creaks) distractions that really ruin the experience. I'd rather have a lesser interior that was free of rattles. not to mention all the other problems and vibrations. Replies to this message: laurasdada (Jun 15, 2006 8:57 am) ggesq (Jun 16, 2006 7:03 pm)
#99 of 165 Re: Drove the SE today [tedescm1] by laurasdada Jun 15, 2006 (8:57 am)
Replying to: tedescm1 (Jun 15, 2006 8:02 am) What I think tedescm1 is really saying is: "The tl's interior (and exterior) are better than the Camry, but MY TL’s plagued with rattles and other noises (creaks) distractions that really ruin the experience. I'd rather have a lesser interior that was free of rattles. not to mention all the other problems and vibrations MY TL HAS EXPERIENCED." My '05 TL has no "Harmonic Vibration" and the one rattle when the sunroof was in the vent position was taken care of at service (replaced the wind deflector). My leather after almost 18 months still looks great, a few wrinkles, but the leather in the Evil Wife's Lexus has 'em too! My dash did "fade," was restored by dealer and has "faded" again. I very much enjoy my TL and would recommend it to anyone to consider when shopping. Father, brother and neighbor love their TLs, too. Acutally, they're becomming too common! Tedescm1, unfortunately, got an early build Replies to this message: ggesq (Jun 16, 2006 7:03 pm)
#100 of 165 Re: tl a dressup accord [ctl] by pg48477 Jun 15, 2006 (2:19 pm)
Replying to: ctl (Jun 14, 2006 2:32 pm) You absolutely right about ES it’s identical to Camry, Accord and TL on the other hand is not. I’m not a TL owner, so I don’t have bias towards any of those vehicles. I’m not going to change your mind but will give you few exaples to think about. TL vs Accord. 1. Share the same platform, however chases size is different both length and width. If it was not published by Honda, nobody would notice. Just like Infiniti M35 derived form the same platform as G35. 2. The powertrain is different, even though the engines have the same structure, the size is different 3.2 vs 3.0. 3. Exterior is totally different, front, back, especial the side. Bottom line, TL looks like Accord just like it looks like Camry. The only resemblance is the hood. 4. Interior has better quality materials and totally different layout. Some of the switches are the same, so I got to give you that. Accord does have outstanding interior also, but as a hole it dos not looks like TL’s. TL might share some parts like fuses with Accord, but who care about that? Camry vs ES 1. The same platform, same size same everything. 2. The same engine. 3. Exterior was changed a bit Front and back, the side of the care is exactly the same. You can take a door of ES and put it on Camry. 5. Interior is more luxurious in ES and it also look different, but some of the switches are the same. Under the skin ES is exactly the same as Camry, everything is shared from fuse to the engine and chases. Who’s in denial now? I’m not even going to performance as TL will live both Accord and Camry in the dust. And I’m not referring to 0-60 numbers, if you interested in that get a Charger. Don’t get me wrong, Camry is the best selling BOAT in the country. Replies to this message: maximafan (Jun 15, 2006 6:59 pm) pg48477 (Jun 15, 2006 7:53 pm) gingerfire (Dec 26, 2006 4:05 pm) jdelabre (Dec 27, 2006 9:20 am) ggesq (Dec 27, 2006 12:45 pm) and 3 more... ctl (Jun 16, 2006 12:25 pm)
#101 of 165 Re: Drove the SE today [tedescm1] by pg48477 Jun 15, 2006 (2:22 pm)
Replying to: tedescm1 (Jun 14, 2006 11:32 am) Looks like you got yourself a lemon. The bed news for you is that the chance of getting another one in Camry is about the same as in another TL. Probably less chance in TL as you already happened to get oneJ I bet you should be able to find yourself an online friend with lemon Camry and share the experiences. Lemon issues aside, TL is still a better car by a mile.
#102 of 165 Re: Drove the SE today [fsowirles] by pg48477 Jun 15, 2006 (2:24 pm)
Replying to: fsowirles (Jun 14, 2006 7:35 am) You must know that performance numbers are very sensitive to the truck conditions. Unless the test was done on the same day or at least the air temperature and the track temperature was similar, the results cannot be compared. But even if you look at the numbers you posted TL clearly out handled Camry , over 2 MPH is a huge difference in slalom. TL has a clear advantage in handling and I don’t need to look at the numbers to know it, just drive both cars. With that said, not everyone out there are the same, I for one can not tell the difference between the best and the worst audio system. For those who can not tell the difference in handling and refinement between Camry and TL, Camry is the better choice, nothing wrong with that. I know you might argue that you can tell the difference but that just proves my argument, audio system example. The numbers you posted for Camry are the best I have seen anywhere; TL tested by CD ran 0-60 in 5.9 sec. Also, TL is a 3 year old model and it’s way above brand new Camry.
#103 of 165 SE vs. TL by bartalk3 Jun 15, 2006 (5:46 pm)
Drove the SE the other day. Interior definitely seemed cheap compared to the TL. It's definitely a step down from the TL. The TL was designed to be a sporty car and that's what its design reflects. The Camry SE is basically a compromise between the standard Camry design with a bit of sporty stuff (suspension, etc) added almost as an afterthought. If you want a sporty car, get the car that was designed for that purpose from the ground up, not one that's basically a mid-size family sedan with the sporty equipment tacked on. The SE lacks a purity of purpose that the TL possesses.
#104 of 165 Comparing by petl Jun 15, 2006 (5:49 pm)
Just the fact that many are comparing the new Camry to the TL is a compliment to the ..................TL. Joking aside, why are people comparing these 2 vehicles? Many may want to deny it, but just the fact they are, indicates that Toyota must have done something right. Incidentaly, the TL does look like a dressed up Accord. Just my opinion. Make no mistake, it is all about sales. And, Honda is going to do everything it can to outdo Toyota. One final question. How many of you actually race these vehicles to their full potential? There must be a few race car wantabies out there (scary). I'll take quiet and serene any day. Judging by recent Toyota and Lexus sales, that seems to be what the majority of buyers are looking for. Replies to this message: pg48477 (Jun 15, 2006 6:16 pm) petl (Jun 15, 2006 6:25 pm) pg48477 (Jun 15, 2006 7:51 pm) and 1 more... fsowirles (Jun 16, 2006 9:13 am)
#105 of 165 Re: Comparing [petl] by pg48477 Jun 15, 2006 (6:16 pm)
Replying to: petl (Jun 15, 2006 5:49 pm) Well, maybe Camry owners fell better by comparing their car to TL. I guess it makes them feel better that they can say TL and Camry in the same sentence. It’s a shame on you TL owners who got into this tarp. TL is the best selling car in the segment BMW owner. Replies to this message: petl (Jun 15, 2006 6:25 pm) pg48477 (Jun 15, 2006 7:51 pm) petl (Jun 16, 2006 6:00 am) fsowirles (Jun 16, 2006 9:13 am)

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