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Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry

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Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry by pat HOST
Apr 17, 2006 (6:21 am)
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Lots of folks are comparing these two vehicles in many places in the Forums.
 
Has the new Camry stepped up beyond its previous class? Has it graduated to a league which includes the "Entry-Level Luxury" sedans? How does it compare with the TL specifically?
 
Let us know what you think!
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Re: Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry [pat] by fsowirles
Apr 17, 2006 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: pat (Apr 17, 2006 6:21 am)

Thanks for the new thread. The mere fact that there is enough discussion to incur it's own thread lends credence to the fact that these two cars are being cross shopped. While it may not have been a goal of Toyota, and Acura is not overly concerned....the two vehicles do cross paths. More specifically, the SE V6 and XLE V6 can provide similar driving experience for less money than a comparably equipped TL. Since the TL only comes with the options for with or without Nav (summer tires are a no cost option, and the A-Spec puts it into a different class of car althogether) a fully optioned SE V6 is right there for thousands less.
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Re: Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry [fsowirles] by lmacmil
Apr 17, 2006 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: fsowirles (Apr 17, 2006 6:54 am)

I don't too many Acura shoppers are looking a Camrys also. I think most Acura buyers are looking to move up to a luxury brand and while the Camry may arguably represent a better value, it certainly doesn't have the cache of Acura, Lexus, Infiniti, etc.
 
We'll never know the stats but my guess is that well under 10% of potential TL buyers will seriously consider a Camry and even fewer Camry buyers are considering a TL. But I'm sure this will be a lively discussion.
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Re: Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry [lmacmil] by fsowirles
Apr 17, 2006 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: lmacmil (Apr 17, 2006 7:21 am)

There is a difference between those looking for certain things in a car at a certain price point and don't care about the cache of a hood ornament.
 
I was looking for a sporty sedan with all the bells and whistles for $35k or less. The TL fit the bill perfectly, but the Camry did it for $3.5k less. I agree that it isn't a large percentage, but definitely something one should take into account if the TL satisfies your automotive desires.
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Re: Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry [fsowirles] by billyperks1
Apr 17, 2006 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: fsowirles (Apr 17, 2006 7:32 am)

I think its like getting demoted from a SVP to VP-Acura owners who buys Camry.
 
I started out with a 94 Camry then I stepped up to a 99 Mazda Millennia and right now I have the 03 TLS.
 
I am looking to move into Lexus GS 350 when it comes out, the GS 300 does not have the punch I am looking for.
 
I saw the Camry last Saturday at the NYC Auto show and I actually liked it, but the "keeping up with the Jones" in
me will not go for the Camry.
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Re: Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry [billyperks1] by fsowirles
Apr 17, 2006 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: billyperks1 (Apr 17, 2006 8:45 am)

Exactly my point: You are in the group of the gotta have the badge cache. I don't care what others think of my car, so I went with the Camry. I don't need my car to be expensive to prove I can afford it. If that were the case, I would be driving an S65, beacuse I love the car..can afford the car....but choose to use that money for bigger and better things. I also choose to invest in appreciating assets rather than sink money (including paying interest) on a depreciating asset. To each his own.
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Re: Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry [billyperks1] by faldoc
Apr 17, 2006 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: billyperks1 (Apr 17, 2006 8:45 am)

Funny thing is I just traded my Lexus LS400 for a 2007 Camry XLE V6. I got tired of the big parts and service bills, and the amount of depreciation on the Lexus is staggering. I also wanted something with better mileage.
 
I am thrilled with my Camry, even though I can afford a Mercedes I chose to be thrifty and I am proud of it. I don't even feel that I have moved down: more of a sideways move. The car is smooth, quiet, very powerful and well made. I did look at the Acuras, and Infinitis, BMW and Mercedes. Everything I like costs $50k and up. Got to thinking that nobody really sees me in the car, I am very comfortable driving the Camry, so why not? Camry has the room and power of the E class, or 5 series BMW, and all I do is drive highway. Why spend twice as much?
 
Camry has got me 31 mpg. And it moves.
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Re: Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry [billyperks1] by petomlin
Apr 17, 2006 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: billyperks1 (Apr 17, 2006 8:45 am)

LOL!!!
 
funny stuff.
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Re: Acura TL vs. 2007 Toyota Camry [faldoc] by pg48477
Apr 17, 2006 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: faldoc (Apr 17, 2006 12:21 pm)

I guess there is a point in this discussion as many people cross-shop those vehicles. I think though that Camry is in the direct competition with Accord. TL IMO is a class higher, together and even more so with ES. Camry, again IMO, does not provide similar driving experience as an Accord not to mention TL. Toyota did a very good job on the interior of both ES and Camry, exterior stilling is also up, however it’s not even close to match Honda in driving experience, Camry and ES is still boring to drive. Increased power will defiantly help sales and might increase image, as many drivers more concerned with 0-60 numbers then any other performance characteristic. IMO Camry will defiantly step on the ES sales, as now it is the same car with a different badge.
Bottom line is, if one enjoy driving and would like a luxury FWD vehicle, TL is the way to go. TL’s performance numbers are in the same league with smaller RWD G35 and IS, I doubt Camry is even close.
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Test Drove Both by buyer777
Apr 17, 2006 (4:51 pm)
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I had the opportunity to test drive the SE V6 the other day. Thought it was fine, less firm than TL which may be a plus on poor roads. Interior is nice, 6 speed auto, 268 HP and mp3 aux beat TL. Nav looks same. TL has better "cockpit feel".
 
I'd buy the SE if you could get it for $500 or so over Invoice, say $27,000, but MSRP was close to $30k, and they allotments are few so the dealer has leverage on price. 2 month wait for an order.

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