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Acura TL vs 2007 Toyota Camry

165 messages,  Last post on Feb 01, 2008 at 6:35 PM

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#136 of 165
New Generation Camry by frisconick
Jan 05, 2007 (10:14 am)
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The new generation Camry is a great looking car, but really does not compete with the TL-S. Maybe the XLE does compete with the standard TL.
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n by starman98
Jan 05, 2007 (1:35 pm)
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The Accord is the competitor for the Camry...the ES350 is sort of a competitor for the TL
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Re: n [starman98] by frisconick
Jan 05, 2007 (3:10 pm)
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Replying to: starman98 (Jan 05, 2007 1:35 pm)

the xle is very nice, leather seats and all. But it's a different class, true.
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Acura has HALF-BAKED features by automophile
Jan 11, 2007 (12:30 pm)
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Don't get me wrong, I love my Acura TL, but I find that the hands-free link is yet another half-baked feature on the car. After working with my Nokia 2165 for months, it suddenly quit. The phone is recognized, and will dial, but no voice. A trip to the dealer taught me that the system is only guaranteed to work with the very small handfull of APPROVED phones. Otherwise, it may not work at all, work partly or may quit after some time. There are hardly phones from the last century on the approved list, and you can see that nearly all of them work only PARTLY with the sytem! You can check this for yourself at www.handsfreelink.com.
 
I am FURIOUS about this. My company develops electronic products, including wireless, and it is clear that the Acura engineers didn't do a very good job designing the system to make it meet all the Bluetooth compatibility requirements. I can go out and buy ANY $20 hands free headset or 3rd party handfree kit and it will work immediately with ANY Bluetooth phone I may have - but NOT this $35K car unit! Thanks ACURA.
 
SO - if your phone is not working properly with the car, check the list - it is probably not on it. This is a BIG oversight on the part of Acura engineering.
 
FYI one of the other half-baked features is the so-called "surround sound" system. It ONLY works with DTS audio DVDs, so it has no effect on your CDs and the XM stereo. The algorithm to convert 2-channel stereo to surround is included FREE with the DTS license, but Acura decided NOT to install it. Why? Who knows. I only know that I am not going to replace all my CDs with DVDs, so the feature is as USELESS as the handsfree system.
 
Just a heads-up for your consideration. I doubt that Toyota would release such systems that PARTLY work.
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Re: Acura has HALF-BAKED features [automophile] by ggesq
Jan 11, 2007 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: automophile (Jan 11, 2007 12:30 pm)

If you think you have problems- 07 Camry owners/lessees have their hands full with transmission issues.
 
If I had to choose between the two- the nod goes to the TL.
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Re: Acura has HALF-BAKED features [ggesq] by kdhspyder
Jan 12, 2007 (3:58 am)
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Replying to: ggesq (Jan 11, 2007 6:00 pm)

To be accurate..'.. some owners/lessees have...'
 
With 400,000+ of these on the roads it is not as pervasive as many would have you believe from reading on the forums. If you count the very vocal posters here ( who I am certain do have signigicant issues ) it's less than 100 certainly.
 
My wife and I just purchased a new Solara to replace her MR2. I will be monitoring it for any hesitation because the 'old' technology of the 5 Spd with the 3.3L was also DBW and potentially susceptible to it. My feeling from driving the Highlander ( same technology ) is that we will make it accustomed to our driving and vice versa.
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Re: Acura has HALF-BAKED features [kdhspyder] by ggesq
Jan 12, 2007 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 12, 2007 3:58 am)

kd- good point. Not all Camry owners are experiencing the hesitation/transmission issue.
 
Then again, not everyone has problems pairing their phones to the BT in the TL either.
 
My nod still goes to the TL.
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Re: Acura has HALF-BAKED features [ggesq] by eroc69
May 29, 2007 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: ggesq (Jan 11, 2007 6:00 pm)

Im sure my post is alittle late but its still 100% honest.
I just purchased an 07 Camry LE V6 with the 6 sp. auto.
I had the chance to buy an 04 TL with Nav but it had 50K miles. Now I now thats not really high but in Pittsburgh it is very hard. Lotsa hills, potholes etc. I ended with the camry and am kicking myself for not getting the TL. I will have one in a year or 2.
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Re: Acura has HALF-BAKED features [eroc69] by justbass
May 29, 2007 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: eroc69 (May 29, 2007 3:50 pm)

The title of your post is misleading.
 
Why the change of heart so soon after just purchasing the Camry?
 
What did you not like about the Camry that a test drive didn't reveal?

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