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#15 of 64 Re: Things change [rockylee] by dieselone

Apr 19, 2006 (6:14 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:46 am)
Do you think if GM loses the #1 spot, do you think it could regain it's crown again ?
 
Can = yes
 
Will = beats me, not if they continue to operate as they have the past few decades.

#16 of 64 Re: if this says anything... [wonderwall] by grbeck

Apr 19, 2006 (7:08 am)

Replying to: wonderwall (Apr 18, 2006 2:31 pm)
wonderwall: "But then again, me and most of my friends eat sushi, majored in the Humanities or Social Sciences and voted for the smart guy in 2004..."
 
If you believe that, you really do need to get out more...
 
Incidentally, according to a recent news story, the most cross-shopped brand with Hyundai is...Chevrolet. So there must not be too much stigma associated with owning a Chevrolet among Hyundai intenders and buyers.

#17 of 64 Re: They're still not competitive. [perna] by carguy58

Apr 21, 2006 (11:00 am)

Replying to: perna (Apr 18, 2006 11:09 am)
"Gen X: The SUV craze in the 90s. They put zero dev money into anything that didn't stand a mile above traffic and have 4WD, so what are people who hate trucks like myself supposed to buy."
 
I am a generation Xer myself being 26 years old and your're right in the 90's American Car Companies forgot about cars and just concentrated on SUV's. I grew up on GM and Ford cars because my parents always owned them and yes they are boomers. When I bought my first car I stayed away from American Cars because of perception(bad reliability.) I bought a Mazda 626. My second time of buying a car I stayed away from Detroit makes and even Toyota because of looks. Again I bought an Acura CL. I am a big Mazda and Honda guy and I just don't care for Domestic Big 3 cars. I mean Chrysler is the best domestic that Detroit has to offer. I still don't think I would buy a Chrysler over a Mazda or a Honda right now even though Chrysler has some great products stylewise right now and their interiors aren't half bad either.

#18 of 64 Flip side of the coin... by lemko

Apr 21, 2006 (11:48 am)

I'll be 41 in May, so that must make me a "proto-GenX'er."
 
I grew up on Ford and Chevrolet cars because my parents and grandparents always owned them. Dad was from the generation between the "Greatest" and "Boomers" and Mom was among the first Boomers. When I bought my first car I immediately went straight to General Motors because of perception,(extremely good reliability.) and bought a Buick Special Deluxe. The perception was true! I went back to Buick and got a Park Avenue! I am a big Cadillac and Buick guy and just don't care for imported cars. Lexus is the best the imports have to offer but I wouldn't choose a Lexus over a Cadillac or a Buick even though Lexus has some great products reliability-wise and their interiors are really nice.

#19 of 64 Re: Flip side of the coin... [lemko] by fintail

Apr 21, 2006 (12:50 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Apr 21, 2006 11:48 am)
I'll be 29 soon...so I am a late Xer I think. My parents are older than most my age, pre-boomer. They were pretty loyal to big 3 cars when I was growing up, and they had more than a couple lemons. Because of that, I have a jaundiced eye, especially towards middle market domestics. Fall-apart Blazer, Clunky Ciera, Tauri that ate both head gaskets and trannies, we had em all. I have a suspicion my experiences are mirrored by many my age.

#20 of 64 Re: Flip side of the coin... [fintail] by rockylee

Apr 21, 2006 (6:32 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Apr 21, 2006 12:50 pm)
I'll be 29 soon...so I am a late Xer I think. My parents are older than most my age, pre-boomer.
 
 
 
29 ? Whoa. I thought you were in your 40's based on your broad knowledge of older cars
 
Rocky

#21 of 64 Re: Flip side of the coin... [rockylee] by fintail

Apr 22, 2006 (12:11 pm)

Replying to: rockylee (Apr 21, 2006 6:32 pm)
I have mature tastes I guess

#22 of 64 Re: Flip side of the coin... [lemko] by carguy58

Apr 22, 2006 (12:31 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Apr 21, 2006 11:48 am)
"I am a big Cadillac and Buick guy and just don't care for imported cars. Lexus is the best the imports have to offer but I wouldn't choose a Lexus over a Cadillac or a Buick even though Lexus has some great products reliability-wise and their interiors are really nice."
 
You seem to be more into "traditional luxury brands" if you know what I mean like Caddy, Buick, and Lexus. I was wondering if you like a car like the Volvo S60 or a Mercedes since you seems more into traditional luxury brands. You don't seem like the type of person that would be into sport luxury brands like Acura, Infinti, or BMW. I don't think judging by your tastes you would like a car like a Pontiac Solstice. How do you feel about Caddy;s Art & Science styling theme like with the CTs for example?

#23 of 64 Oh Well by lweiss

Apr 24, 2006 (5:08 am)

I am in my late 50s (baby boomer) and one of the things characteristic of my generation is that we want to think young and do things like younger people- hence all of the cosmetic surgery, dieting, Viagara (Haha), buying things like that- and not to be associated as an old fogey. So for me, even my current 1998 Volvo S-70 seems old- my next car will be a Mazda 6 Speed, maybe the new Nissan Altima, an Acura TL will be a contender. GM models- no way, my kids (all in their 20's) would laugh me out of town.
 
And I don't think I am alone. I've read that the Honda Element, designed for young people, has a sizeable following with baby boomers. And we can afford what we want to buy.

#24 of 64 Re: Flip side of the coin... [carguy58] by lemko

Apr 24, 2006 (5:25 am)

Replying to: carguy58 (Apr 22, 2006 12:31 pm)
I was always very much into traditional luxury cars, even when I was very young. I don't care much for Volvo, but I could see myself in a Mercedes S-Class if the maintenance and repair costs and recent concerns about reliability didn't scare me off. A Pontiac Solstice is a nice toy for a nice sunny day or two, but I can't see myself purchasing one. I kind of like Cadillac's Art & Science theme because they had to do something in face of the challenge by the imports and it seems to be working. Lincoln is so far behind Cadillac and the imports it's not funny. Ten years or so ago, I would've liked a new Lincoln Town Car. Now it comes across more like a gussied-up Crown Victoria.

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