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Sep 26, 2009 (7:36 pm)
Both '74's stranded me with bad rubber bellows (the first one was the worst, and I wasn't too unhappy that it got wrecked. I didn't have any say in the replacement).
The second one lost a tooth on the flywheel but I could crawl underneath with a screwdriver and move it enough to engage the starter. Then the camshaft gave way and it completely gave up the ghost.
Then there was the late 70's wagon that wouldn't crank about this time of the year up in Alaska after a snow shortened canoe trip. I was new to the state, new to hypothermia, and wound up nursing a thermos of hot Tang lying in a damp sleeping bag under a canoe in some nasty weather while the owner worked an hour getting it cranked so we could run shuttle.
20 years later, a shuttle driver just about totaled that guy's brother's Volvo wagon when he went boating with us here in Idaho. The shuttle company didn't even leave a note at the take-out and tried to denied responsibility. Not Volvo's fault, but it made me wonder....
On the other hand, there was an '84 240 that I borrowed occasionally from a good friend that was a tank. When she died, she left a list of six friends who were standing in line to buy it and the order in which they had first requested it. (It was a good car, but I wasn't on the list - I think I jinx them).
#206 of 247 Re: nice [fezo]
Sep 27, 2009 (5:43 pm)
Fezo, I had a '69 142S as well. Loved that car, although it was a tank. It didn't feel slow to me, largely because my dad had a '68 144S automatic. Slow doesn't begin to describe that car. The MB 190D my mother's cousin owned might have been slower, but I never drove that one so I'm not sure.
#207 of 247 Re: nice [bhill2]
Sep 27, 2009 (6:03 pm)
Gee, when I was a kid they had this bike contest. One of the events was to see who could go the slowest while still staying upright.
I would imagine a race between that 144 and 190D would be like that.
You know doubt remember the shift on the ol' 142 seemed as long as a baseball bat!
#208 of 247 Re: nice [fezo]
Sep 27, 2009 (8:15 pm)
A stock 142/144 was slow. But, the long shifter had a great feel, as it was direct into the gearbox, instead of using rails or any linkage.
The 140-series can be made to be great runners, and handlers, but it does take some work. I can certainly attest to that given I'm still tweaking mine after nearly 40 years of ownership. IPD successfully raced 142's in the '70s and '80's in the SCCA series. And, thanks to them, parts are still available.
The biggest change on my 144S that had a substantial impact on acceleration, other than the engine block and head work, including cam change and tuned exhaust headers, was a lightened flywheel. The B20B uses a very heavy flywheel. By safely removing excess material from the OEM steel flywheel, or going to an alloy version, the car is transformed from a slug off the line to one that's quite impressive.
I know I'm "off topic" on this thread, but one of my friend's in the local Volvo club replaced the B20B in a 142S with Ford 289 V8. The swap was done very professionally, and it was a very nice car to drive. No problem with power with that engine...
Back to regular programming, and "Volvo's Future"... I hope it doesn't include the Chinese.
#209 of 247 Re: nice [colloquor]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Sep 27, 2009 (9:11 pm)
Goldman Sachs’ PE fund is buying a 15 percent stake in Geely Auto. But the money isn't near enough to buy Volvo. (Zikkir)
Geely is being a bit coy about what they are going to do with Goldman's 334 million.
"Jia Xinguang, Auto Analyst said "The money raised is limited, it's not enough for bidding Volvo at all. I think it's just for short-term financing."
Analysts also point to improving performance in Ford Motor and that it's not in such desperate need for money. And that Geely may have missed the best chance for a bargain buy." (CCTV)
It doesn't sound like the Saab deal is going very smoothly either.
#210 of 247 Re: nice [steve_]
Sep 28, 2009 (7:16 am)
Maybe that money can fund some new copycars. A fakey C30 might be amusing
#211 of 247 Re: 144 [colloquor]
Sep 29, 2009 (10:17 am)
Just thought of this - how's your 144 on gas? The reason I ask is my 142 not only required premium but it was very finicky about which brand you used. Ran well on Exxon, Shell, Mobil, Amoco and Texaco. Hated Gulf and a couple of other brands and would let you know in no uncertain terms until you burned through at least half a tank and sometimes even had to do the old Sunoco ultra to make up for things.
Sep 30, 2009 (6:00 am)
Originally with the Strombergs, fuel mileage in town was pretty terrible - low' teens - if you can believe it!. But the switch to SUs made a big difference for in town use. Highway mileage is in the mid-20s. Others running the downdraft Weber DGV get slightly better fuel mileage.
Of course, now it's set up to run on unleaded regular - lowered compression ratio and hardened valve seats. Still gets mid-20s on the road, but high teens in town. Not very good, but acceptable...
#213 of 247 competition for Geely?
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 05, 2009 (1:38 pm)
"There are few reported details about a proposal from Dingman's Crown consortium to acquire Volvo, but the deal likely may vary significantly from that proposed by Geely, which, among other facets, is said to include a provision that Ford retain responsibility for certain pension liabilities and that Ford retain a share of Volvo."
Consortium Led by Former Ford Execs Makes Play for Volvo (AutoObserver)
Oct 28, 2009 (5:43 am)
Geely is ahead in this horse race:
Ford names China's Geely as preferred Volvo bidder
October 28, 2009 - 7:12 am ET
MUNICH -- Chinese automaker Geely Group Holding Co. is Ford Motor Co.'s preferred bidder to purchase Volvo Car Corp.
Ford announced Wednesday that it will start more detailed negotiations with Geely, adding that no final decisions have been made.
"Ford believes Geely has the potential to be a responsible future owner of Volvo and to take the business forward while preserving its core values and the independence of the Swedish brand," Ford Chief Financial Officer Lewis Booth said in a statement.
Ford said it does not intend to retain a shareholding in Volvo but will continue to work with the automaker in several areas after a possible sale.
I wonder what gives them assurances that Geely will be a "responsible corporate owner that will preserve the core Volvo values". I would expect it to be a quick race to the cheapest cost-per-unit as priority #1.