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Who Paid What by johnnyv
Dec 25, 2005 (12:11 pm)
Thanks for setting up this board. I am planning to purchase a X-trail SE AWD, auto-tranny early in 2006.
 
I would appreciate any commentary/experience anyone can share regarding recent price paid and discounts received.
 
I was poking around another website and found comments such as: $1,700 off sticker, $2,000 below MSRP (for buyer that also bought a trailer hitch and snow tires from the dealer, I saw a comment of 7% below MSRP and finally $34,400 all in (taxes included but no indication if this was auto or manual). All of these references indicated SE model but did not indicate is was, or not, AWD or auto-tranny.
 
7% off MSRP roughly equate to the $2,000 - both noted above. At my visit to the dealership, where I indicated I would not be buying for a few months I was offered $1,000 off MSRP without even attempting to negotiate.
 
I worked out the following assuming dealer markup of 15% on base vehicle and 30% markup on the packages, and options.
 
XE FWD is $26,100 - 15% margin $3,915
Increase to SE AWD is $3,900 - 30% margin $1,170
Auto $1,000 - 30% margin $300
Paint $285 - 30% margin $90
 
My estimate is $5,475 dealer margin in the car (ignoring the usual PDI and admin/mkting fees).
 
I plan to target a $3,500 price reduction. 2/3 of my estimate of the margin.
 
I would appreciate any assessment/recommendation anyone could provide of my analsyis. Has anyone use a dealer invoice price service to find out to confirm dealer margins, and/or factory to dealer incentive.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
JohnnyV
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What are buyers paying in and around North Carolina by 4xfour
Dec 25, 2005 (7:20 pm)
In the market for a 2005 Xterra S, 4x4, auto, pwr/utility packages. Ones I have seen list for around $26000 MSRP with the usual options. One dealer e mailed me a quote of invoice minus the $2k rebate. To that he would add 3% N.C. tax, $399 documentation fee (to fill out the paper work!)tag/title fee and NC inspection fee. I have read postings of buyers getting way below invoice, not sure if these buyers are trading in a vehicle and the salesman is inflating the discount by not allowing true value for there trade. Your help will be appreciated.
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Re: What are buyers paying in and around North Carolina [4xfour] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 25, 2005 (7:28 pm)

Replying to: 4xfour (Dec 25, 2005 7:20 pm)

Hi... I think you are in the wrong forum...
 
Try re-posting here:
 
Nissan XTerra: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences

 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Who Paid What [johnnyv] by cbmorton
Dec 26, 2005 (9:13 pm)

Replying to: johnnyv (Dec 25, 2005 12:11 pm)

Johnnyv, I'm also looking around for a smallish SUV and the X-Trail LE is on my list. I have an account with a dealer invoice pricing co. and although I haven't done the pricing report on the X-Trail I can say that your estimate on how much profit is in the vehicle is very high. There's only about 7% mark-up between invoice and MSRP on the similarly-priced Tucson GLS, for example. For about $40 you can walk into the dealer and be able to deal up from the invoice price instead of down from MSRP. I suspect actual invoice on an SE AWD auto with the pearl paint is around $29k.
 
From the pricing comments you've seen from others it sounds like Nissan is letting people make pretty good deals on these. I don't see them around that often and the dealer inventory search on the Nissan web site turns up tons of them. I wonder if they're not selling as well as hoped at the moment. If true that would help us drive a harder bargain!
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Re: Who Paid What [cbmorton] by johnnyv
Dec 27, 2005 (8:19 pm)

Replying to: cbmorton (Dec 26, 2005 9:13 pm)

CB,
 
Thanks for the feedback.
 
I have been comparing the x-trail to other vehicles in the class. Tucson is actually one other that I rather liked.
 
I don't like the products with the outside mounted spare because I prefer the open upwards rather than sideways.
 
I am otherwise a Honda fan. I have owned and '81 prelude, '91 Accord and '04 TL. That said the CRV leaves me cold. When I tried to enter it I hammered my knee on the emergency break lever. For a company so good at ergodynamics I can't understand the placement of the emergency brake under the steering wheel. If money were no object and gas prices were declining instead of rising I just might be purchasing a Ridgline.
 
My only knocks on the Tucson were: no 6 disc changer, and I am a little uncertain about the reliability of their little 6 cyl motor.
 
In the X-trail I really like: the external styling, the very large sun-roof, wipe down cargo area, and I am pretty confident in Nissan reliability.
 
If you get any further pricing intelligence on the X-Trail I would appreciate anything that you can share. In addition to the invoice pricing I am trying to track down factory to dealer incentives. It's nice if they show me an invoice for $29,000m, but they may not be showing me their other incentives that aren't recorded on the invoice.
 
Regards,
 
JohnnyV
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Re: Who Paid What [johnnyv] by cbmorton
Dec 28, 2005 (1:59 pm)

Replying to: johnnyv (Dec 27, 2005 8:19 pm)

The nice thing about carcostcanada.com at least is that the pricing reports ($40 for 5 different vehicles) usually do show you additional incentives that are available, e.g., apparently there's an unadvertised $1000 cash bonus on the '06 Grand Vitara from Suzuki (in addition to the $300 reward they're advertising).
 
I agree with you on the rear door issue. We currently have a RAV4 as a second vehicle and although the rear spare doesn't impair vision, it does make the door heavy and it opening to the side is inconvenient more often than anything else.
 
My sister has had an '06 Tucson GLS for about a month. Great vehicle so far. I was impressed by how solid and quiet it is. The 2.7 V6 has been used by Hyundai for several years so I'd hope it would be proven(?) True, no six-disc changer, but standard side curtain airbags and stability control, which I think you have to step up to the LE for on the X-Trail.
 
I'll keep you posted if I get any further info on pricing.
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Re: Who Paid What [cbmorton] by bfieldhouse
Dec 29, 2005 (2:38 pm)

Replying to: cbmorton (Dec 28, 2005 1:59 pm)

Hey there. I am looking to buy a 2006 SE AWD but with manual transmission. The MSRP is $29998 and the dealer invoice is $27618. That is a mark up of $2380 or 8.5%. You were talking about people saying they got 7% reductions. That seems pretty good when the dealer invoice is only an 8% reduction from the MSRP. Dealers do need to make some money!!
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Re: Who Paid What [bfieldhouse] by bfieldhouse
Dec 29, 2005 (2:45 pm)

Replying to: bfieldhouse (Dec 29, 2005 2:38 pm)

Of course that is not including the Freight and PDI and extra $125 for the paint. Perhaps people negotiated that down.
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Re: Who Paid What [bfieldhouse] by johnnyv
Dec 29, 2005 (5:00 pm)

Replying to: bfieldhouse (Dec 29, 2005 2:45 pm)

Thanks for the info.
 
I agree that the dealer has to make a buck, I just don't want to spend more than I need to.
 
We are looking a similar vehicles except for my desire for the auto tranny. I wonder about how much margin the have in the auto, the "marketing charge" that is showing up at dealer ships and how much margin they have in the PDI.
 
My understanding is that dealers target an average profit in the range of $1,000-$1,500 per vehicle.
 
Regards,
 
JohnnyV
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Re: Who Paid What [johnnyv] by alabaster1
Dec 29, 2005 (6:11 pm)

Replying to: johnnyv (Dec 29, 2005 5:00 pm)

It's been great reading your querry. I am considering leasing a 2006 X Trail SE. I have never leased before and wonder if there is room to deal on the price... I have a quote for $30,998 CDN. I think there has been a little padding in the price.
 
I have also been doing a little comparing of vehicles and agree that the ergonomics of the X Trail has really been thought through..
 
Regards,
 
Gloria

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