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Chevrolet Equinox, SUV
#431 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [zdad]
Aug 21, 2010 (7:39 am)
I highly doubt you'll do better than supplier price from another dealer just negotiating off MSRP. The reason is it is GM that takes the hit for supplier pricing, but if you are just negotiating off sticker it is the dealer who takes the hit. You could act like you don't have any discounts and see how far down they go just to cover your bases. Then say something like "are there any discounts for being a credit union member or military or anything?".
Like I said, your difference in pricing between dealers with supplier price will be with how they value your trade in, dealer fees, and any dealer add-ons.
#432 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [wallyuwl]
Aug 21, 2010 (1:26 pm)
I pulled the trigger and got the 2011 Equinox 1LT with the convenience package. I got the Navy Metallic Blue, with the Jet Black/Titanium white premium cloth seats. They did package the car up a little different from 2010 to 2011 model, but nothing new. The convenience package added power driver seat, back up camera, Bluetooth and a couple of minor things. As noted before my sale price was the Supplier Discount of $24,632. They did give me $500 more in trade than any other dealer offered.
I went to the dealer in the next town this afternoon, and didn't mention the supplier price. They offered $25050, on and MSRP of $25,550, and $500 less in trade. Told them I appreciated their time, but they missed the other offer by ~$800. As I'm walking out they do the "Let me go back to my manager" dance. I said no thanks. When I said you had one shot, I meant it.
I do hear the infamous "ping" when I am at speed, but I only hear it when nothing ios on. This is a very quiet car, and I think because of that, you hear every little thing. With the radio on, you can't hear it.
#433 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories
Aug 22, 2010 (8:27 pm)
2 local dealers in my area (north cenrtal Pa.)
sticker $31,505 to $30,499 ($1,006 off)
sticker $32,655 to $30,995 ($1660 off)
#434 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [wallyuwl]
Aug 23, 2010 (11:39 am)
Supply won't go up for the 2010's. It's ov-ah for that. The 2011's are already out in full force! You know, this whole process is so "Un-GM". Normally, the new model year vehicles are slow to hit the lots. The leftovers hang around well into next year. This year, at least with the Equinoxes - maybe because they made so FEW of them, it's just the opposite. The 2011's are out early, and the 2010's will probably be gone by Thanksgiving - not just locally .... everywhere! And GM continues to sell at or near MSRP! I really think this is a strategy. And it's a change in philosophy from the past. It's now "make fewer units, sell at higher prices, and no leftovers". All I can is - God help GM if, 4-5 years from now, it turns out the quality is really no better than what it was before - which, don't get me wrong - wasn't "terrible", but was characterized by at least one MAJOR flaw per model that was both costly and disappointing. But at least with OLD GM, you were buying at a sizeable discount up-front as a hedge against these costly repairs. Now, there's no hedge. GM will be compared to the competition on a level playing field ... and I'm not sure GM is ready for that right now...
Did that IPO ever happen? Better get that influx of cash before the bottom drops out...
#435 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [wallyuwl]
Aug 23, 2010 (11:56 am)
I've created my own system for purchasing vehicles whereby I never set foot in the dealership unless I'm there to pick-up (buy) the vehicle. I almost always buy leftovers at scheduled intervals for cash (at very healthy discounts), and I've never paid a "dealer fee" that I didn't already know about ahead of time. There's no end to dealer scams like "doc fees", "etching" etc. that dealers dream up simply so they can quote you one (lower) price to get you into the dealership, then change it to a higher number at the last minute. "Doc fees" don't scare me. Dealers can make them thousand of dollars if they want to. It's the overall price that matters. And if you forget to ask for these "fees" numbers up-front (a sign of an inexperienced buyer because these "fees" have been around now for AT LEAST 15 years), they gotcha. All you can do at that point is walk out (and you SHOULD), but I suspect most people don't because most people buy based on a monthly payment and the dealers know how big a "fee" they can tack on divided by X months before it'll become an issue with the buyer.
It's capitalism: One person capitalizing on another for financial gain. Your job is to be prepared for all the scams they will try to throw at you so that they don't steal your money. There's a deal that can be struck between both parties which is fair to both. But once greed enters the equation, it's every man for himself.
#436 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [colt_hero]
Aug 23, 2010 (2:16 pm)
Yeah, I meant in general supply will go up as time goes on. 2010s will be gone even before Thanksgiving, IMO. But one year from now, I'd be surprised if there weren't at least a couple thousand cash back, or 0% for 60, on the 2011 Noxs. I don't think this is some vast conspiracy - they simply have a new model that is very popular. They added second, and then third, shifts at the manufacturing plant as they realized demand was so high.
Yup, I am an inexpreienced buyer. This was my first new vehicle. But as a buyer if you are happy with the "out the door" (minuts TTL) price, that is all you can ask for. And I was. I ended up over $1200 better than any of the other three dealers I "dealed" with (all online), even considering the high doc fee and vin etching. And this doesn't include adding in transport costs that probably would have been associated with the other dealers, since they were working off of doing dealer trades, while this one had the car on their lot (and the dealer was two miles away, the others were 60 or more). I never bargin with monthly payment, too easy to get taken that way. But this dealer doesn't play those games anyway, unlike some other dealers around here. They have a good rep.
#437 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [wallyuwl]
Aug 23, 2010 (5:04 pm)
It sounds like you did as well as you could've on your Equinox. It's just been a very tough vehicle to purchase. Even if you would've known about the doc fee up-front, they wouldn't have changed it or altered the overall price. It was going to sell at their price.
Who knows? Maybe I'll end up with a 2011 Equinox. I'm going to hold out until year's end or first quarter next year and hope I can pick up a discounted 2010. If not, it'll be a leftover 2010 Traversty (sure to be leftovers there) VS. 2011 Equinox. And this scenario will probably favor the Traversty with the combination of bigger Traversty discounts and higher Equinox pricing.
It's gonna be fun. I'll keep you posted. Maybe I'll be buying somewhere in your area (LOL)...
#438 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [colt_hero]
Sep 07, 2010 (12:04 pm)
Have been searching the dealers here in NE PA for a few weeks now. Most 2010's are gone and the 2011's are what they are pushing. Locally there are zero FWD models (what I'm looking for). Most don't have many Noxes on their lots but are pricing based on incoming inventory. I found a dealer in NJ willing to go to $24500 on a 2011 LT1 FWD with drivers convenience package. MSRP is $25500. Think it's a great price given what they have been selling for. Just wish it was in a different color. May just take it, not sure yet.
#439 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [wnuk]
Sep 07, 2010 (12:47 pm)
get a hyuundai santa fe
#440 of 491 Re: Equinox High Prices/Low Inventories [ral2167]
Sep 07, 2010 (1:45 pm)
Care to elaborate on this? A blind statement like that does no good without some sort of reasoning why the Sante Fe would be better.