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2009 Toyota Prius (World's First 100 MPG Car!)

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Re: 2009 Prius Report [benjaminh] by sdricke
Apr 08, 2007 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: benjaminh (Mar 18, 2007 9:06 am)

Wow! The Solar Panels are a really nerdy feature, but uh, look really close, and that front end looks like it came straight off a Lamborghini Gallardo, albeit not quite as wide. SWEET!
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Re: 2009 Prius Report [sdricke] by scottsheck
Apr 12, 2007 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: sdricke (Apr 08, 2007 7:38 pm)

Don't get your hopes up too high about the solar panels. That's complete wishful thinking. I highly doubt a car company would risk putting solar panels on a car since it could easily fail due to the elements. Any accident, rock hit, scratch, etc. would render it useless. And to protect it from these things would most likely cost or weigh too much.
 
Also, solar panels are not yet that efficient enough to justify risking these potential problems.
 
You'll likely see a plug-in option before you ever see solar panels on a car.
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Re: 2009 Toyota Prius (World's First 100 MPG Car!) [rockylee] by alpacino
Jul 24, 2007 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Dec 21, 2006 7:06 am)

The most fuel-efficient cars in Europe all have fuel efficiency over 64 miles to the gallon, which translates to 27 kilometers per liter. The car which tops the list is the Citroen C1, followed by the Toyota Aygo, Renault Clio, Citroen C2, Fiat New Panda, Toyota Prius gasoline hybrid, Citroen C3, Vauxhall Corsa, Peugeot 206, and another model of the Vauxhall Corsa. Many of these cars are available in other parts of the world including Africa and Asia, where a high premium is placed on gas efficiency as well.
In the United States, the top 10 most fuel-efficient cars have efficiency ranging from 30 miles per gallon to just over 60 (12 kilometers per liter to 25 kilometers per liter). The Prius released in the United States is less fuel efficient than the European Prius, as are the Volkswagens
so you can see that 100mpg is not that much.Most of the EU cars have 64 mpg and I am talking about cars with normal engines ,not hybrids.
 
If America starts to import EU cars like "Peugeot,"Renault"Skoda,Fiat,Citroen I think this will destroy your car makers but will make your life much better.
Why US car makers keep making not so good fuel efficient cars?When it is possible?
See this:
 
http://cars.rte.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=684376
 
PEUGEOT
http://www.peugeot.com/en/default.htm
CITROEN
http://www.citroen.com/CWW/fr-FR
FIAT
http://fiat.com/cgi-bin/pbrand.dll/FIAT_COM/showroom/selectModel.jsp?BV_SessionI- D=@@@@1834191029.1185316951@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccccaddlifljieicefecejgdfiidgnj.0&ca- tegoryOID=-1073761346
 
RENAULT
http://www.renault.co.uk/CurrentRange.aspx
 
SKODA
http://new.skoda-auto.com/COM/Pages/Home.aspx
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skoda by eldaino
Jul 26, 2007 (10:55 am)
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freaking rules.
 
to answer someones question about the hybrid from honda...its not really a 'replacement' for the insight as much as it is a brand new car that is not based off another model like the civic or accord hybrid...it WILL be an original exclusvie hybrid like the prius and insight before it.
 
if toyota does bring out a prius that pushes 100mpg, i don't think there will be any way to make it less than 20k.
 
the new honda hybrid is GOING to be slotted underneath the civic hybrid, which means it would have to be about 3k less...totally making it less than 20k. (to start at least)
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the talk by nippononly
Jul 30, 2007 (3:13 pm)
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of development of a plug-in Prius seems to be moving along nicely...latest word I heard is that they are aiming for a range of 8 miles at no more than 30-35 mph, running ENTIRELY on electrics. That means it uses no gas at all during the week if your commute is less than 8 miles. That's INFINITE mpg!
 
They have the recharge time down to 3 hours for this version too, on 110V house current.
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I want to see by drfill
Jul 30, 2007 (3:28 pm)
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an EV Mode for 25MPG limit for 5 miles, without plug-in. For stop-and-go traffic.
 
   DrFill
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Re: the talk [nippononly] by mackabee
Aug 14, 2007 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 30, 2007 3:13 pm)

This looks to me like a step backwards. Wasn't this the reason electric cars never took off? You had to plug them in. So I don't get it. Who drives less than 8 miles? I think this is a bad idea.
 
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Re: the talk [mackabee] by nippononly
Aug 14, 2007 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 14, 2007 11:33 am)

Well, it runs just like a regular Prius the rest of the time. Think current Prius with tweaks to the programming allowing it to run longer and at higher speeds on electric-only, so that you can potentially make that morning run to work without ever firing the gas engine. (As long as you have a short commute, at least the way it is presently.)
 
Several companies are now converting the existing Prius model to 100+ mpg plug-ins for $4-6K. If they can do it for that much investment, imagine how much less it might cost from a volume carmaker!
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Re: the talk [nippononly] by mackabee
Aug 16, 2007 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 14, 2007 7:50 pm)

Ok. I get it now. It's just the same as the current Prius but it will be modified to run on electric power longer?
 
 Mackabee
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Re: the talk [mackabee] by nippononly
Aug 16, 2007 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Aug 16, 2007 4:19 pm)

MUCH longer. And of course, these companies currently modifying the Prius don;t offer a 150K battery warranty the way Toyota does!
 
But results seem to have been pretty good so far. The only downside is the modified Prii run slower than the regular ones because they are programmed to run as much as possible on the electrics only. Toyota, I believe, is aiming to make its 100 mpg Prius perform to the same parameters as the existing 2004+ model.

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