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#783 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [jbaustian] by gagrice

Jul 05, 2009 (6:38 pm)

Replying to: jbaustian (Jul 05, 2009 4:55 pm)
A $1000-$2000 premium would be absorbed by the Tax Credit that the car will get. Hopefully more than the unfair $1300 offered on the Jetta. Due to poor EPA testing procedures.
 
If VW wants to get around the added expense of Urea on the GTD. They can sell the car with the current 140 HP engine then sell a jet kit to up the HP to 170. It is still the same 2.0L engine as far as I can tell.

#784 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [backy] by moparbad

Jul 05, 2009 (8:22 pm)

Replying to: backy (Jul 05, 2009 4:38 pm)
The 2010 Prius starts at $22,000.
 
$22,750 is base MSRP for 2010 Prius, not $22,000.
 
$750 will buy 12,000 miles of diesel for the Golf TDI.

#785 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [moparbad] by backy

Jul 05, 2009 (8:50 pm)

Replying to: moparbad (Jul 05, 2009 8:22 pm)
Edmunds.com disagrees with you:
 
http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/prius/2010/index.html#search=open.eq..amp.p.eq.cve- hicledata%23%23-1%23%23-1~~nf12||546f796f7461
 
Unless you have the published MSRP for the 4-door Golf TDI, I don't see how you can say how much more or less it will cost than the Prius.

#786 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [backy] by gagrice

Jul 06, 2009 (6:13 am)

Replying to: backy (Jul 05, 2009 8:50 pm)
You can compare the prices paid in the UK for the Golf diesel and the base Prius. The base Prius is about 2000 GBP more than the Golf 4 dr TDI. How that relates to the price we pay has a lot to do with the future value of the dollar. I think the $750 was the shipping that brings the base Prius II up to $22,750. When the Prius V arrives it will be just over $28K. Just for comparison the most expensive Rabbit is selling under $20k. The Golf and the Rabbit are basically the same vehicle.
 
Unfortunately we will not get the Golf GTD in the USA. We are again relegated to the cheap seats with the much less impressive Golf TDI.

#787 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [backy] by jeffyscott

Jul 06, 2009 (6:29 am)

Replying to: backy (Jul 05, 2009 8:50 pm)
Click your way through that pricing tool and you will see a $750 destination charge appear at the end.
 
2009 Jetta TDI starts at $22,970, including destination. It is likely the Golf TDI, at least the 2 door, will start somewhat below this price. Based on this, my guess would be that the MSRP of the cheapest Golf TDI will be at most about $1000 less than the Prius.
 
Who knows what the relationships will be between the MSRP and actual selling prices (and financing incentives). It probably depends on what the price of fuel is, just as it has in the past. If it is $4 per gallon people will likely pay a premium for either vehicle, if it is $2 per gallon they will be discounted.

#788 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [gagrice] by shipo

Jul 06, 2009 (6:38 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 06, 2009 6:13 am)
Unfortunately we will not get the Golf GTD in the USA. We are again relegated to the cheap seats with the much less impressive Golf TDI.
 
Hmmm, that's not what I heard. As I understand it, there are two versions of the GTD, the 140 hp and the 170 hp variants, and we're slated to get the 140 version. Do you have any recent information that contradicts that?
 
Best regards,
Shipo

#789 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [shipo] by vwgreg

Jul 06, 2009 (6:42 am)

Replying to: shipo (Jul 06, 2009 6:38 am)
we absolutely will get the GTD in the US. no question about it. we should see them in sept./oct.

#790 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [vwgreg] by shipo

Jul 06, 2009 (7:01 am)

Replying to: vwgreg (Jul 06, 2009 6:42 am)
Thanks.

#791 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [vwgreg] by gagrice

Jul 06, 2009 (7:31 am)

Replying to: vwgreg (Jul 06, 2009 6:42 am)
I do hope you are right. I was reading a June 2009 article that claimed we would get the lower powered Golf TDI.
 
This also seemed totally unrealistic. Are German taxes that high on a new car? UK pricing is about $10k less than German.
 
9th of June 2009
Volkswagen debuted the long acclaimed Golf GTD in Germany with pricing starting at €27,475 (US$38,100) for the 6-speed manual and €29,350 (US$40,700) for the DSG version. The GTD version of the World Car of the Year is often referred to as the GTI of diesels and comes with 2.0-liter direct injection common rail turbo diesel unit that generates a maximum output of 170 horsepower at 4,200 rpm and 350 Nm of torque between 1,750 rpm and 2,500 rpm.
 
Golf GTD

#792 of 832 Re: TDI is the answer [jeffyscott] by backy

Jul 06, 2009 (8:01 am)

Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 06, 2009 6:29 am)
I was more interested in an apples-to-apples comparison, e.g. 4-door Golf or Jetta TDI vs. the 4-door Prius. The Prius has an "automatic" on the base model and the Golf/Jetta TDI a stick, so those who would opt for the automatic on the Golf/Jetta should allow for that also.
 
What I don't see though is any big price disparity between the two cars--not enough anyway to hold up the claim that the Prius is somehow not for normal people while the TDI is. I bet if you load up a Golf/Jetta TDI with nav and all the toys it too will get into the mid-to-upper $20s, like the higher-end Prius trims.

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