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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by jbaustian
Jun 05, 2007 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 05, 2007 2:10 pm)

The first generation (Mk1) Rabbit/Golf was built from 1974-1984. (It is still under production as the Golf Citi in South Africa.)
 
The 2nd generation was built from 1983-1992. The Rabbit nameplate went away.
 
The 3rd generation 1991-1998.
 
The 4th generation 1997-2006 (though continuing in some countries.
 
The current (5th) generation, the Rabbit/GTI in North America, Golf everywhere else.
 
All the information you want/need is in Wikipedia. The article also says the current model requires 50 man/hours to build, which is why it costs so much to make. And it says the next generation will be introduced in 2008. (Not sure if in Europe only or also NA)
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Re: Mk6 [jbaustian] by denverdavo
Jun 06, 2007 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: jbaustian (Jun 05, 2007 7:32 pm)

Thanks, Jbaustian....that was a cool website with all the history. So, in 2008 do you think there will be a significant body style change? I had no idea this car was out in late 2003 in Europe. It sure took a while to get over here! I also wonder why they don't offer at least one other engine option in the U.S. considering how many different engines have been in this car overseas.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by jbaustian
Jun 06, 2007 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 06, 2007 6:46 am)

Davo, you have to remember that VW has to sell Rabbits/Golfs in North America, even if they are losing money. That does not mean they want to, or that offering other attractive engine packages would help their bottom line.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by eldaino
Jun 06, 2007 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 05, 2007 2:10 pm)

oh, i see. I didn't realize the manual specified that! I'll have to look at mine, because mine does not show the individual gears like that either.
 
Thanks to jb for posting the link; that was the site i was going to send you too! Accordig to vw, the next version (mark VI) is supposed to be cheaper and more quick to build, and be a bit sportier, which leads me to think that some performance will be emphasized, (and hopefully mpg addressed), and that the interior will probably be less audi like and closer to quality on par with cars like the civic and 3. (not bad by ANY means, but still a little step down from what it is now.)
 
with regards to engine choices and mpg; did you know that the 2.5 is only available here in NA? Europe and everywhere else does not get this engine, its apparently tailored to american tastes. (aside from the torquey diesels, anything smaller than the 2.5 we get, unless its turbo charged, would result in a very slow rabbit.)
 
I wouldn't stress about explaining the mileage to other people; i get the 'i bet it gets great mileage!' all the time too. Most people expect small, cheap cars to get great mileage, but most people also don't realize how heavy the rabbit is, or that its packing a huge 5 cyl. The camry probably weighed just as much, and was packing a smaller 4 cyl; i'd say you are doing pretty good. After having the civic, i did miss the mileage, a lot in fact, but i do appreciate the bunny's ability to do what it does with what hit has. Plus my wife and i only own one car, so gas isn't that big of a deal. Its just me.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by eldaino
Jun 06, 2007 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 06, 2007 6:46 am)

it probably will be a different body style, more streamlined, less...well 'poofy' looking. (although i like it.)
 
there are some concepts on a site that someone posted up here on the rabbit forum...the name of the site is in an mk6 thread i posted awhile back. You should be able to run a search using that name and easily find the site. Some of the pictures are totally photshopped, but others offer some real insight to what it could potentially look like.
 
it has been out for awhile in europe, so maybe vw will do the same again, but since we are apparently getting the newer version as soon as 09, its safe to say they may not repeat this and give both markets the same vehicle at the same time.
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Re: Mk6 [denverdavo] by jeffyscott
Jun 06, 2007 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: denverdavo (Jun 05, 2007 2:10 pm)

The fact of the matter is that it gets about 1 mpg. better than the 4 cylinder Camry did. That extra cylinder really does this car in on mileage
 
Actually, I don't think extra cylinder is much of a factor, instead it is the weight. It weighs nearly as much as a Camry, and the engine is about the same displacement and HP, so there is really no reason to expect significantly better mileage.
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Re: Mk6 [eldaino] by jbaustian
Jun 06, 2007 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 06, 2007 7:17 am)

RE: "Plus my wife and i only own one car, so gas isn't that big of a deal. Its just me."
 
That's the bottom line, I think. The Rabbit is the perfect car, IMO, for the one-car family. It's big enough to carry passengers or cargo. It's safe. It's got enough power, but if you need more then there's the GTI. It handles nicely, it looks good, and it's designed to last for a long, long time. It doesn't cost an arm and a leg to buy or insure. Just about the only negative feature is the less-than-stellar fuel economy -- which probably adds a couple hundred dollars per year to the "cost to own" side of the equation.
 
Some families may end up with two, three, or four vehicles -- each one serving a specialized purpose. Maybe a minivan, a pickup, a sedan, and something economical for commuting or running errands. But if you make a conscious decision to pick one car to do all things, then the Rabbit is a pretty good choice.
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Re: Mk6 [jbaustian] by eldaino
Jun 07, 2007 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: jbaustian (Jun 06, 2007 3:38 pm)

totally agreed. I still think my old civic fit this bill too, but it does not suffer from the less-than-stellar fuel economy. The tradeoff is less sure-footedness on the highway(the civic still does a good job of this though), no hatchback versatility, and a higher price/less content ratio.
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Solid by shirotori
Jun 07, 2007 (12:41 pm)
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I had to drive about 45 miles at about 60 mph (two lane road) yesterday in heavy rain and wind, and I tell you what, my Rabbit was as solid on the road as one could hope for. Had massive spray coming from semi-trucks coming from the opposite way and it didn't hesitate; always had solid contact/feel with the road and the wipers did an excellent job of keeping visibility good. I felt very safe.
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Re: Solid [shirotori] by gogirlgo
Jun 07, 2007 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: shirotori (Jun 07, 2007 12:41 pm)

I so agree with you. I have had my 4 door Rabbit for almost a year. My last car was an 02 Passat which was a very nice car too. I just returned from a round trip drive from San Francisco to Portland and found the Rabbit very comfortable for a long drive. I averaged 31 miles to the gal. driving 70 miles/hour most of the way using AC much of the way. Lots of trucks and fast moving traffic, but I felt so safe and relaxed in my Rabbit and it is great in those tight parking spaces in SF. I have not had any problems with my Rabbit. I bought it for its safety, handling, and good visibility and solid feel. I tried lots of other autos, but feel it is the best car and very happy with it.

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